Wife of Denethor - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eowyn Wenhamir · 02-05-2004, 07:48 AM

I have never had the time or ambition to actually sit down and read the Simarillion, and that may explain why I do not know EXACTLY the answer to this question, or rather statement:

In ROTK it directly quotes that Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth is the kinsman of the Lord, I am assuming Lord Denethor. Denethor's wife, as quoted in the Appendices of ROTK, was the daughter of Adrahil of Dol Amroth, and here is the question: was Denethor's wife Imrahil's sister, making Imrahil the uncle of Faramir and Boromir? Or did Tolkien even provide a precise answer to this?

Please help! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

Lalaith · 02-05-2004, 08:18 AM

You're quite right, Imrahil was Finduilas' little brother.
Here's a Dol Amroth family tree, if you're interested: http://www.tuckborough.net/imrahil.html#Genealogy:

Eowyn Wenhamir · 02-05-2004, 11:09 AM

Wow, that was really quick! Thanks. Awesome link.

Kransha · 02-05-2004, 03:35 PM

Yes, Imrahil is the brother of Finduilas, which means:

-Imrahil is the uncle of Boromir and Faramir
-Brother of Denethor

BUT, here's a twist.
Imrahil is the father of Lothiriel, WHO MARRIED EOMER!
Eowyn, Eomer's brother, married Faramir, Imrahil's nephew.

So Imrahil is both Eomer's uncle and father.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:36 PM February 05, 2004: Message edited by: Kransha ]

Lily Bracegirdle · 02-05-2004, 04:38 PM

Also, as Finduilas' family has an elvish ancestor, Faramir and Boromir have a teeny bit of elf in 'em.

-Lily

symestreem · 02-10-2004, 06:06 PM

I think you might mean father-in-law,
Kransha.

Kransha · 02-10-2004, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by symestreem
I think you might mean father-in-law,
Kransha.

Yes, I do, but it's still a crazy family line. Of course, that doesn't really muddle up anything, it's just unhappy coincidence. Imrahil's related to everyone nowadays.

Macphisto · 02-22-2004, 05:54 PM

I've always thought it was funny that Faramir married Eomer's sister, then Eomer married Faramir's cousin. Talk about joining nations!

02-05-2004, 07:48 AM	#1
Eowyn Wenhamir Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 16	Wife of Denethor I have never had the time or ambition to actually sit down and read the Simarillion, and that may explain why I do not know EXACTLY the answer to this question, or rather statement: In ROTK it directly quotes that Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth is the kinsman of the Lord, I am assuming Lord Denethor. Denethor's wife, as quoted in the Appendices of ROTK, was the daughter of Adrahil of Dol Amroth, and here is the question: was Denethor's wife Imrahil's sister, making Imrahil the uncle of Faramir and Boromir? Or did Tolkien even provide a precise answer to this? Please help! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] __________________ "You wish, then," said Faramir, "that our places had been exchanged?" "Yes, I do wish that," said Denethor. "For Boromir was loyal to me, and no wizard's pupil."

02-05-2004, 08:18 AM	#2
Lalaith Blithe Spirit Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,779	You're quite right, Imrahil was Finduilas' little brother. Here's a Dol Amroth family tree, if you're interested: http://www.tuckborough.net/imrahil.html#Genealogy: __________________ Out went the candle, and we were left darkling

02-05-2004, 11:09 AM	#3
Eowyn Wenhamir Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Minas Tirith Posts: 16	Wow, that was really quick! Thanks. Awesome link. __________________ "You wish, then," said Faramir, "that our places had been exchanged?" "Yes, I do wish that," said Denethor. "For Boromir was loyal to me, and no wizard's pupil."

02-05-2004, 03:35 PM	#4
Kransha Ubiquitous Urulóki Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: The port of Mars, where Famine, Sword, and Fire, leash'd in like hounds, crouch for employment Posts: 747	Yes, Imrahil is the brother of Finduilas, which means: -Imrahil is the uncle of Boromir and Faramir -Brother of Denethor BUT, here's a twist. Imrahil is the father of Lothiriel, WHO MARRIED EOMER! Eowyn, Eomer's brother, married Faramir, Imrahil's nephew. So Imrahil is both Eomer's uncle and father. <font size=1 color=339966>[ 4:36 PM February 05, 2004: Message edited by: Kransha ] __________________ "What mortal feels not awe/Nor trembles at our name, Hearing our fate-appointed power sublime/Fixed by the eternal law. For old our office, and our fame," -Aeschylus, Song of the Furies

02-05-2004, 04:38 PM	#5
Lily Bracegirdle Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bree Posts: 210	Also, as Finduilas' family has an elvish ancestor, Faramir and Boromir have a teeny bit of elf in 'em. -Lily __________________ "But nay: the praise of the praiseworthy is above all rewards." - Faramir

02-10-2004, 06:06 PM	#6
symestreem Face in the Water Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 728	I think you might mean father-in-law, Kransha.

02-22-2004, 05:54 PM	#8
Macphisto Pile O'Bones Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: MA, USA. Posts: 11	I've always thought it was funny that Faramir married Eomer's sister, then Eomer married Faramir's cousin. Talk about joining nations! __________________ Off with the horns, on with the show! -Macphisto