Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread

[satansaloser2005]

I concur.


All hail Mith! All hail Mith!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Alright, that works.

For anyone interested, I flipped a coin. It hit the floor, rolled out the door, down the stairs, and out a window. An omen?

Mithalwen, the Grey Queen, wins!
The White Pieces (Mnemosyne and Wilwa alive) and the Black Pieces (Phantom and Isabellkya alive) tie for second.
The Black Queen (Fea) gets third.

Discuss everything here. Except how I shockingly dropped the ball and let it smash to smithereens on the last day.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Night 1:
Kath (White Bishop) dreams the phantom - Black Pawn (shows up as White Pawn)
Rikae (Black Bishop) dreams wilwarin538 - White Pawn
Nerwen (White Rook) hunts the phantom
Lariren Shadow (Black Rook) hunts Feanor of the Peredhil
Brinniel (White Queen)does not send a list

Day 1:
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) finds out that the Black Bishop dreamt of wilwarin538 and the White Bishop dreamt of the phantom
Rikae (Black Bishop) finds out that wilwarin538 is a White Pawn
Kath (White Bishop) finds out that the phantom is a "White Pawn" even though he is the Black Pawn
Feanor of the Peredhil and Gwathagor up for lynching; numbers 1-100. Feanor of the Peredhil will be even; Gwathagor will be odd. Random number generator spits out #39. Gwathagor is lynched, and is a White Pawn.

Night 2:
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) kills Eomer of the Rohirrim (White Pawn)
Nerwen (White Rook) changes hunts to Nogrod (White Knight)
Lariren Shadow (Black Rook) stays the same
Kath (White Bishop) dreams of Nogrod (White Knight)
Rikae (Black Bishop) dreams of Mnemosyne (White Pawn)
Rikae (Black Bishop) kills Nerwen (White Rook) (Nerwen got her hunter change in before Rikae killed her, so she didn't take the phantom with her.)
Brinniel (White Queen) triples the voting power of the phantom
Isabellkya (Black Knight) protects Rikae
Nogrod (White Knight) protects himself

Day 2:
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) finds out that the Black Bishop dreamt of Mnemosyne and the White Bishop dreamt of Nogrod
Rikae (Black Bishop) finds out that Mnemosyne is a White Pawn
Kath (White Bishop) finds out that Nogrod is the White Knight; Kath and Nogrod will be able to PM Night 3
Nogrod lynched (via the phantom's powered-up vote): White Knight

Night 3:
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) attacks Lariren Shadow (Black Rook)
Isabellkya (Black Knight) protects Lariren Shadow (Black Rook)
Rikae (Black Bishop) dreams the phantom (Black Pawn - comes up as White Pawn)
Rikae (Black Bishop) kills Mirandir (White Pawn)
Brinniel (White Queen) powers up the vote of Mnemosyne (White Pawn)
Brinniel (White Pawn) promotes satansaloser2005 (White Pawn) into a White Rook
Kath (White Bishop) dreams satansaloser2005 (newly-made White Rook)
Lariren Shadow (Black Rook) hunts satansaloser2005 (White Rook)

Day 3:
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) finds out that the White Bishop dreamt of satansaloser2005 and the Black Bishop dreamt of the phantom
Rikae (Black Bishop) finds out that the phantom is a White Pawn even though he's the Black Pawn
Kath (White Bishop) finds out that satansaloser2005 is a White Rook
Hansy lynched: White Pawn

Night 4:
satansaloser2005 (White Rook) hunts Brinniel (White Queen)
Lariren Shadow (Black Rook) hunts Eonwe (White Pawn)
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) kills Lariren Shadow (Black Rook); Lariren Shadow takes Eonwe (White Pawn) with her
Kath (White Bishop) dreams of Rikae (Black Bishop)
Isabellkya (Black Knight) protects Rikae (Black Bishop)
Rikae (Black Bishop) kills Kath (White Bishop)
Rikae (Black Bishop) dreams of satansaloser2005 (White Rook)
Brinniel (White Queen) triples Lariren Shadow (Black Rook) - Fails
Brinniel (White Queen) attempts to promote Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) - Fails
satansaloser2005 (White Rook) switches her hunt pick to Rikae (Black Bishop)

Day 4:
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) finds out that the Black Bishop dreamt satansaloser2005
Rikae (Black Bishop) finds out that satansaloser2005 is a White Rook
Durelin lynched: White Pawn

Night 5:
satansaloser2005 (White Rook) hunts Feanor of the Peredhil (Black queen)
Isabellkya (Black Knight) kills satansaloser2005 (White Rook). Thus, Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) dies as well.
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) attacks Isabellkya (Black Knight). Unfortunately, Feanor of the Peredhil is now dead.
Rikae (Black Bishop) dreams of Brinniel (White Queen)
Brinniel (White Queen) promotes Isabellkya (Black Knight) - Fails.
Brinniel (White Queen) triples her own voting power.
Isabellkya (Black Knight) protects herself.

Day 5:
Rikae (Black Bishop) finds out that Brinniel is the White Queen.
Rikae (Black Bishop) lynched.

Night 6:
PANDEMONIUM.

Mirandir - White Pawn
Durelin - White Pawn
Feanor of the Peredhil - Black Queen
Isabellkya - Black Knight
Nerwen - White Rook
Eomer of the Rohirrim - White Pawn
the phantom - Black Pawn
Brinniel - White Queen
satansaloser2005 - White Pawn
Gwathagor - White Pawn
Lariren Shadow - Black Rook
wilwarin538 - White Pawn
Rikae - Black Bishop
Eonwe - White Pawn
Nogrod - White Knight
Mnemosyne - White Pawn
Kath - White Bishop
Hansy - White Pawn

[Hansy]

Wise decisions.

Ok, I loved this game, the roles and the scenarios they could provide. And the people, it was nice to meet you all ^^

I won't be playing here for a while, but I'll be checking you out

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shasta

Night 3:
Feanor of the Peredhil (Black Queen) attacks Lariren Shadow (Black Rook)
Isabellkya (Black Knight) protects Lariren Shadow (Black Rook)
Rikae (Black Bishop) dreams the phantom (Black Pawn - comes up as White Pawn)
Rikae (Black Bishop) kills Mirandir (White Pawn)
Brinniel (White Queen) powers up the vote of Mnemosyne (White Pawn)
Brinniel (White Pawn) promotes satansaloser2005 (White Pawn) into a White Rook
Kath (White Bishop) dreams satansaloser2005 (newly-made White Rook)
Lariren Shadow (Black Rook) hunts satansaloser2005 (White Rook)

Popular much?


EDIT: x'd with Hansy. By the way, you're welcome to join my game, hun.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Shasta

For anyone interested, I flipped a coin. It hit the floor, rolled out the door, down the stairs, and out a window. An omen?

And what, you didn't video record that?

Anyway, Mith must have an awfully powerful singing voice considering it managed to knock four pieces off the board...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

And what, you didn't video record that?

Anyway, Mith must have an awfully powerful singing voice considering it managed to knock four pieces off the board...

I concur. Darn it, Shasta, I told you it needed to be on video!


Heh. Well, I've heard her voice, and while she wasn't singing at the time I must say....

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Brin

By toMorrow I think it would've become rather clear who the cobbler considering their vote and anyway, I really can't imagine the other two not voting Izzy...

We can never know, but I planned on doing the most intense bluff-offensive of my life, trying to plant at least the slightest seed of doubt in Mnem and Wilwa's minds that Izzy had a chance of being the Cobbler.

I was planning on claiming to be the Ranger right off the bat in order to encourage them to rule me out as the Cobbler. Izzy would then likely vote for me (or at least I figured in my plans that she would), and when no one followed her vote I would point out that for both a hidden WW and Cobbler it would be in their interest to remain uncommited and hope that I, the Ranger, would lead the vote wrong, and thus clinch the win.

If this precise series of events unfolded as planned, reasonable doubt would certainly be introduced to even the most convinced living souls, and that doubt would've become my tool for prodding and poking and trying to get either Mnem or Wilwa to go for each other. I would have used every tool of manipulation and cloaking and lying and such that I have up my sleeve, and put on an act worthy of an Oscar. Likely I would've leaned towards Izzy for most of the day, but quietly fanned the flames of any spark of doubt I saw from Mnem or Wilwa, until a point arrived where I thought things were hot enough to declare that I was having serious second thoughts and needed to hear from everyone and do some rereading, etc etc.... You've seen me do that sort of thing before (as both goodie and baddie).

I do not claim to know whether or not it would've worked. No one can know. Even someone 90% likely to go for Izzy could've hit a perfect storm of RL events and attitude shifts and reading in the thread which could push them the wrong way. Or Mnem or Wilwa might've decided during the night that they might not want to lynch Izzy after all, and then become suspicious of me during the day and I would actually change their minds to vote correctly.

It is one of the mysteries that will be debated for ages and ages by the wise around the world.

Or at least it will be debated for a few seconds inside our heads. Same difference really.

[Mnemosyne]

phantom: Wouldn't have worked on me. My first post on Day 6 was going to be this:

Let none doubt where my loyalties lie...

++Izzy

--Izzy

++Izzy



And.

I TOTALLY STINKING KNEW IT YOU COBBLER YOU!!!

[Mnemosyne]

And considering I got First Post on each day that means you wouldn't have been able to do anything to influence my vote, either.

[the phantom]

I've heard people say plenty of times that they "knew it", and yet they couldn't help but do it anyway.

If I had a nickle for every time someone has aimed a *headdesk* my way...

[Mnemosyne]

That's not an "assuring myself" "I knew it."

That's an "informing you" "I knew it."

But since cobblers are Mostly Harmless and you're such a darn entertaining guy (and I didn't feel like messing up your record) I didn't care to lynch you, especially when my priority was Wolves.

So that sound wasn't me headdesking. It was me hitting the ceiling in triumph.



Wow, all of that smugness pervading the air... how on earth do you bear it, phantom?

[Mnemosyne]

By the way, good game to everyone concerned; I had a lot of fun and am still shocked I made it till Endgame.

I have to sit out of the next one because I know too much, but I'd probably sit out a few anyway. I don't think the game made me ill but it sure didn't help out; I don't think I can handle the stress of a game on top of everything else I have to do for a while.

And I had no clue I would be so darn loud!!!

[wilwarin538]

argh, I'm very happy I made it too the end on my first game back, but so sad that I was soooo wrong about you Mnemo. And phantom, ....for real, I'm always gonna get you lynched first day, just to be safe, haha, cause I have a feeling you would have succeeded in getting me to vote for Mnemo instead of you, and that would have been a disaster.

About half way through the game I was really wishing I had been evil, cause practically no one was suspecting me! It would have been wonderful....

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Mnem

Wow, all of that smugness pervading the air... how on earth do you bear it, phantom?

Smugness, dear? I'm the one saying "There's no telling". You're the one saying "I knew".

If you want smugness from me, let me show you this post I made at the end of Day 2. I correctly name Nog, Kath, and Brin as the three gifteds and I name Izzy, Lari, and Rikae as WereCreatures.

Originally Posted by Mnem

I don't think the game made me ill but it sure didn't help out

This is the first game I've played in a long time that didn't make me ill. I usually lose gobs of sleep during a WW game and fall ill around Day 3 or 4.

Originally Posted by Mnem

And I had no clue I would be so darn loud!!!

Nebraska was pretty noisy, wasn't it?

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Phantom, darling, did I leave my platter with you when I left? I can't seem to find it now...

[Isabellkya]

It quite possibly could have worked on Wilwa, she was thinking of voting for you just yesterDay Mnemosyne.

But, we can speculate all we want.

We didn't suspect you Wilwa; because we were sure you were innocent from the very first Night. xD

I was quite entertained, yet quite paranoid at the same time. Being up for the lynch almost every Day, was nerve wracking to say the least.

The main reason I submitted your name for killing so quickly Brin - was that I knew getting rid of you was the only chance at a shot the next Day. I took the gamble, that you hadn't been lying about trying to turn me into the White Knight. However the general avoidance of discussing what would happen the next Day when/if you died was a bit worrying. As if it wasn't even an option. But I bet that you would be unprotected, and I also bet that the new turned one - wouldn't be able to protect you the Night of their turning. Plus, even if I killed one of the other Pawns; it could've been the turned one - or it could've been the one with the extra voting power. Either way, it was the clearest option.
Plus, the dreadful slowness of the few hours up to the end of Day - was agonizing. Ever since that first lynching/save - I was quite paranoid each Day after; so I thought that you'd all revote for me at the last second. Anywhoo, it felt better to just submit the kill - then spend the rest of the time not thinking about, and debating on it.


Fun game all around, and quite entertaining. I really was starting to have an identity crisis - I couldn't decide if I felt more pawnish or Knightish. Just being moved around on the whim of others. xD

[Mnemosyne]

phantom, what I meant was that if that horrid stench of my own smugness was overpowering for the brief instant that I was smug, I had no clue how you could survive being around yourself all the time!

No worries, wilwa. I'm a n00b here so who knows who/what I am or how I act or play. I figured you meant no harm.

[wilwarin538]

A little something I found:

Originally Posted by the phantom

I forgot to talk about that- the idea of the Black pieces being at war with each other. Or not. Whatever it is they decide is the highest priority.

As far as I am concerned, were I a Wolf I would definitely not try to kill the Bear, but I would like to know who he is so that I could bump him off towards the end if necessary. That extra kill each night cuts the village down so quickly. Surely you can't pass that up. A Day 1 or Night 2 WereBear death would likely lead to a White Christmas. Er, victory.

My take on the Bear killing the Wolves- I would definitely try and kill Wolves once a certain point in the game had been reached. What point, you ask?

Well, if we're on Night 4 and no Wolves have died, I would say it's time to thin them a bit. But the Bear wouldn't want to attack them sooner as it might cause them to be wiped out too early, and he would lose their nightly kill.

However, perhaps the Bear will think it more important to completely control the night and end the threat of being slain at night? I don't know....

If that is the case, he will gun for the WereWolves from the start and will kinda sorta be an ally for us. But then again, if he cannot claim victory himself, is not the slaughter of the village his next greatest desire? Surely the Werebeasts are all servants of destruction, and would rather see evil win than good, even if they don't live to see it. If that is the method adopted by the WereWolves and WereBear, then they will be trying to avoid each other.

Though that is no easy task, for if the Werebeasts are able to identify each other with any success, one would think that the village would be able to do the same. So how possible to coordinate is it really? It almost seems silly to try. You could try and do the opposite and possibly do just as well.

Everywhere you look- interesting scenarios and layers of strategy. I love this set up!

I AM WHITE

He posted this Day 1, and yes I did catch it right away.

I'm assuming you put that there after seeing Fea's secret little hidden message? Perhaps so that when you revealed her message we'd go back and see your's? Or was there some other motive?

Well it fooled me.....sadly. Though I don't know why I ever believed anything the phantom said, especially something so obvious given on Day 1, haha, an innocent phantom would be far more discrete.

[the phantom]

You found my clue, Wilwa! You've made my day!

But if you were to continue on to my next post after that, take a look at what the first thing I say is after my hidden message.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Fea

Phantom, darling, did I leave my platter with you when I left? I can't seem to find it now...

Still licking it clean, dear. I suspect as it is your platter that it may have come into contact with your lips at some point.

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Heh heh... not really.

Is that what you're referring to??

oh my my my....

[the phantom]

Exactly, Wilwa.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

You found my clue, Wilwa! You've made my day!

But if you were to continue on to my next post after that, take a look at what the first thing I say is after my hidden message.

I bloody love you.


Also:

Originally Posted by Phantom

Here's what we know so far-

Sally- Black Rook
Durelin- White Knight
Mnem- WereDuck
phantom- Sauron

So Shasta PM'd me on the Night that I killed Fea and said "do you want the good news or the bad news?" Once we actually got around to 'yes, hun, you're dead, but you fulfilled your role' I asked him what Fea was. He replied, "Sauron, of course." I about had a heart attack, because I wouldn't have put it past him. Heh.



Fea, you homewrecker!!!!!!

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Fea, you homewrecker!!!!!!

[wilwarin538]

Oh wow, confession day one and no one saw it, haha....if I wasn't so mad at you I'd really love you right now, .


x'posted with Sally, twice, haha

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by wilwarin538

Oh wow, confession day one and no one saw it, haha....if I wasn't so mad at you I'd really love you right now, .


x'posted with Sally, twice, haha

*snickers*

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Fea, you homewrecker!!!!!!

I've been called worse.

Good game, everybody. I lost fair and square. That was fun.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Wilwa

if I wasn't so mad at you I'd really love you right now,

My exes all used to say that.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

My exes all used to say that.

Before he ate them, that is. Can't leave witnesses after all.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Sally

Before he ate them, that is.

Do you know how difficult it is to avoid arousing suspicion when you ask her to spend two days bathing in teriyaki sauce?

"But why, hon?"

"It, um, will give you a nice healthy looking tan."

"I've never heard that."

"My friend Rosa uses it, and she's more tan than most people."

"Rosa is Mexican."

"No, she just looks that way."

"Her last name is Gonzales."

"Jim uses it."

"He's a burn victim."

"He accidentally used BBQ sauce."

[Mnemosyne]

Yeah, now he's given up that tack entirely.

phantom: Here, have some hoisin sauce.

Me: Um... why?

phantom: Because you're a duck?

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Do you know how difficult it is to avoid arousing suspicion when you ask her to spend two days bathing in teriyaki sauce?

"But why, hon?"

"It, um, will give you a nice healthy looking tan."

"I've never heard that."

"My friend Rosa uses it, and she's more tan than most people."

"Rosa is Mexican."

"No, she just looks that way."

"Her last name is Gonzales."

"Jim uses it."

"He's a burn victim."

"He accidentally used BBQ sauce."

*looks at her pale skin*

Mehbe I should try that. Phantom, I'll wait until Thursday or so. Then when you come to hang out Saturday I'll look real tasty....erm, I mean pretty.

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

*looks at her pale skin*

Mehbe I should try that. Phantom, I'll wait until Thursday or so. Then when you come to hang out Saturday I'll look real tasty....erm, I mean pretty.

Look, if you two want to be alone all you have to do is say so...

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Look, if you two want to be alone all you have to do is say so...

No, love, we'll want you to stay for dinner.


Come to think of it, you're looking a little sun-starved as well. Lemme help....

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

No, love, we'll want you to stay for dinner.


Come to think of it, you're looking a little sun-starved as well. Lemme help....

Look, if I've told you once I've told you a million times, I'm not a good eat. Not enough meat on the bones, and diseased as well.

[Rikae]

Phantom, I don't see how anyone could have thought you were anything but a cobbler, with all that "I'm so confused! I don't know what's going on!" nonsense. As if you would have admitted it - if it were true, you would have faked it.

Mnemi, you were a known non-gifted, of course you survived!

I can't believe Fea was in on Kath's and my dream picks! Sally, did you know about that (*points to remark about hunting Kath's dream*)? Fea, you must have had me pegged as the black bishop early on, with all my hints to Izzy and Lari, right? What an interesting setup!

[Mnemosyne]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Mnemi, you were a known non-gifted, of course you survived!

Shush! I'm still trying to tell myself it was to my own 1337 skillz!

...Besides, that doesn't make me immune from a lynch... does it?

>_>
<_<

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Phantom, I don't see how anyone could have thought you were anything but a cobbler, with all that "I'm so confused! I don't know what's going on!" nonsense. As if you would have admitted it - if it were true, you would have faked it.

Mnemi, you were a known non-gifted, of course you survived!

I can't believe Fea was in on Kath's and my dream picks! Sally, did you know about that (*points to remark about hunting Kath's dream*)? Fea, you must have had me pegged as the black bishop early on, with all my hints to Izzy and Lari, right? What an interesting setup!

Hmmmm. I believe when I said that I was still hunting you, though I did know all Kath's other picks. And nope, hehe, I didn't know about all Fea's mad skills until well after I was dead. I pretty much did one of these....

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

Shush! I'm still trying to tell myself it was to my own 1337 skillz!

...Besides, that doesn't make me immune from a lynch... does it?

>_>
<_<

Kinda. We had a strategy of trying to get the unknowns lynched.

And it was all going so well until it became clear that Sally wasn't the WQ...