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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Tolkien Villains
I have thought about this for a while, and some of Tolkien's villains are far more interesting than heroes.
Take Feanor, who made the Silmarils, that Silmarilion is named after. Or Morgoth, who used them as his symbol of power. After killing their maker's dad of course. Then there is Sauron, who is the title character in the book, and I have a headcanon about him, which hinges on 'even evil has loved ones' and this is real reason he wanted Pharazon dead. Why, he had two loved ones there, whoah. Then there is Targlin. Oh, I have quite a bit to say about Targlin, but if I do, it would turn into an essay, so I'll just say this: Uma semente escura do mal foi semeada. And finally, there is Turin, whose actions weren't evil per se, but still did a lot of damage.
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Interesting antagonists make interesting stories even better than interesting protagonists do.
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I think you should be more surprised that I would call Targlin a villain.
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"Surely you don’t disbelieve the prophecies, because you had a hand in bringing them about yourself?" - Gandalf She's Cobbling from beyond the DeadThread! That's next-level cobbling. ~hS, TIG CXV
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OK, I'll bite. Targlin was an early and rejected name for Maeglin and an early name for galvorn, the metal that Eol's sword was made from. That's all I can find. Is there another Targlin?
*First time that I ever used the HoME index.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Tolkien had a passing notion to give the Dark Elf some very un-elflike traits including constant sore throats, and name him Garglin, but rejected the idea.
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Surely you can apply this principle to many strands of literature, films and TV. The villains are they key to the plots, the more interesting they are, the better the story lines
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Spirit of Mist
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True. Middle-Earth would be a boring place without villains.
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