THE RING and corruption - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Dininziliel · 02-22-2003, 01:35 AM

I wish I could find the passage where Denethor chides Boromir for wanting his father to renounce stewardship and claim kingship. Denethor tells him that not even 10,000 years would be enough to weaken the integrity of the stewards' oath to maintain Gondor for the return of the king. It's very stern and full of special pride in honoring a Gondoran oath.

That being said, yes--there was considerable resentment over the very idea that a king would return. Denethor's thinking was that the stewards had been more steadfast to Gondor than the kings had. Boromir did not question his father. To their way of thinking, stewards "trumped" kings.

This is all very condensed and without references, but I'm tired.

As for closing this thread--well, sure, but it's hard to see how the very heart of the book has been exhausted. Perhaps it is too philosophical (license for opinion and conjecture) and not ideally suited for message boards?

It has been a lot of fun. I feel privileged to be allowed among people who have such command of the subject and are so articulate!

Peace to every person everywhere from this one in the U.S.

02-22-2003, 01:35 AM	#11
Dininziliel Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: 3rd star from the right over Kansas Posts: 108	I wish I could find the passage where Denethor chides Boromir for wanting his father to renounce stewardship and claim kingship. Denethor tells him that not even 10,000 years would be enough to weaken the integrity of the stewards' oath to maintain Gondor for the return of the king. It's very stern and full of special pride in honoring a Gondoran oath. That being said, yes--there was considerable resentment over the very idea that a king would return. Denethor's thinking was that the stewards had been more steadfast to Gondor than the kings had. Boromir did not question his father. To their way of thinking, stewards "trumped" kings. This is all very condensed and without references, but I'm tired. As for closing this thread--well, sure, but it's hard to see how the very heart of the book has been exhausted. Perhaps it is too philosophical (license for opinion and conjecture) and not ideally suited for message boards? It has been a lot of fun. I feel privileged to be allowed among people who have such command of the subject and are so articulate! Peace to every person everywhere from this one in the U.S. __________________ "It is a journey without distance to a goal that has never changed."