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Pallando · 06-24-2002, 05:10 PM

Shelob, the giant female spider (Shelob=She-spider). Frodo and Sam were tricked by Gollum/Sméagol to go into her lair, which was in Cirth Ungol which was upon the western mountain-fence of Mordor, and she poisned Frodo, but was killed by Sam. Frodo was soon taken by Sauron's Orcs.

She was also a direct decendant of Ungoliant.

Ungoliant
_____________|______________
| |
Shelob (other spiders)
_______|_______
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Spiders (others)
of
Mirkwood

Extra Info:

The earliest definite date we have for Shelob is c.1000 (Second Age), because we know that she occupied Cirith Ungol 'before the first stone of Barad-dûr' which was laid at about that time (from The Two Towers IV 9 Shelob's Lair). We also know, from the same source, that she originally came there 'flying from ruin' - this is indefinite, but ties in neatly with the War of Wrath a thousand years earlier. The suggestion here is that she originally occupied Beleriand, probably in the Ered Gorgoroth, and fled southwards to escape its destruction.

06-24-2002, 05:10 PM	#1
Pallando Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: On your grave, Dancing. Posts: 101	Shelob, the giant female spider (Shelob=She-spider). Frodo and Sam were tricked by Gollum/Sméagol to go into her lair, which was in Cirth Ungol which was upon the western mountain-fence of Mordor, and she poisned Frodo, but was killed by Sam. Frodo was soon taken by Sauron's Orcs. She was also a direct decendant of Ungoliant. Ungoliant _____________\|______________ \| \| Shelob (other spiders) _______\|_______ \| \| Spiders (others) of Mirkwood Extra Info: The earliest definite date we have for Shelob is c.1000 (Second Age), because we know that she occupied Cirith Ungol 'before the first stone of Barad-dûr' which was laid at about that time (from The Two Towers IV 9 Shelob's Lair). We also know, from the same source, that she originally came there 'flying from ruin' - this is indefinite, but ties in neatly with the War of Wrath a thousand years earlier. The suggestion here is that she originally occupied Beleriand, probably in the Ered Gorgoroth, and fled southwards to escape its destruction.