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05-20-2002, 07:21 PM

So, can people name me some female villians of middle earth. Please include some background information on her, so I can know who is being talked about. Thanks.

Lindolirian · 05-20-2002, 07:37 PM

Lobelia Sackville Baggins: mother of Lotho, who let Saruman and his ruffians into the Shire. LObelia was in love with Bag End and was very angry that Bilbo came back from the Quest of Erebor to claim his home. But, she ends up nice in the end.... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Melephelwen · 05-21-2002, 11:56 AM

Ungoliant - a giant spider, who spinned a total darkness around herself. She was the foremother (sp?) the Shelob (an other giant spider, the one who nearly killed Frodo in TTT, because Gollum betrayed them). Ungoliant was dangerous to even Morgoth, and a Balrog had to help him out of trouble. After that, she went into a cave in Ephel Duath. (I think; anyway, the ones in Beleriand (Silmarillion)) Better stop talking now; you probably got my point... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

*Mele

Arwen Imladris · 05-22-2002, 03:14 PM

Arwen: She got Aragorn
Rose: she got Sam
Galadriel: Is more perty then me!

O.K. these are silly, but I couldn't think of any real ones!

Luthien_ Tinuviel · 06-20-2002, 04:15 PM

Thuringwethil, how about your namesake? Evil messenger of Morgoth, not to mention a vampire, gets killed, (I think), and my namesake, Luthien, dresses up as her to fool Morgoth. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Joy · 06-20-2002, 04:20 PM

Queen Berithiel and Tar-Ancalimë

Pallando · 06-24-2002, 05:10 PM

Shelob, the giant female spider (Shelob=She-spider). Frodo and Sam were tricked by Gollum/Sméagol to go into her lair, which was in Cirth Ungol which was upon the western mountain-fence of Mordor, and she poisned Frodo, but was killed by Sam. Frodo was soon taken by Sauron's Orcs.

She was also a direct decendant of Ungoliant.

Ungoliant
_____________|______________
| |
Shelob (other spiders)
_______|_______
| |
Spiders (others)
of
Mirkwood

Extra Info:

The earliest definite date we have for Shelob is c.1000 (Second Age), because we know that she occupied Cirith Ungol 'before the first stone of Barad-dûr' which was laid at about that time (from The Two Towers IV 9 Shelob's Lair). We also know, from the same source, that she originally came there 'flying from ruin' - this is indefinite, but ties in neatly with the War of Wrath a thousand years earlier. The suggestion here is that she originally occupied Beleriand, probably in the Ered Gorgoroth, and fled southwards to escape its destruction.

05-20-2002, 07:21 PM	#1
Thuringwethil Guest Posts: n/a	Evil Women So, can people name me some female villians of middle earth. Please include some background information on her, so I can know who is being talked about. Thanks.

05-20-2002, 07:37 PM	#2
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Lobelia Sackville Baggins: mother of Lotho, who let Saruman and his ruffians into the Shire. LObelia was in love with Bag End and was very angry that Bilbo came back from the Quest of Erebor to claim his home. But, she ends up nice in the end.... [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

05-21-2002, 11:56 AM	#3
Melephelwen Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2002 Location: the Middle of Nowhere Posts: 291	Ungoliant - a giant spider, who spinned a total darkness around herself. She was the foremother (sp?) the Shelob (an other giant spider, the one who nearly killed Frodo in TTT, because Gollum betrayed them). Ungoliant was dangerous to even Morgoth, and a Balrog had to help him out of trouble. After that, she went into a cave in Ephel Duath. (I think; anyway, the ones in Beleriand (Silmarillion)) Better stop talking now; you probably got my point... [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] *Mele __________________ We're all following a strange melody We're all summoned by a tune We're following the piper And we dance beneath the moon

05-22-2002, 03:14 PM	#4
Arwen Imladris Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a box with a fox Posts: 1,347	Arwen: She got Aragorn Rose: she got Sam Galadriel: Is more perty then me! O.K. these are silly, but I couldn't think of any real ones! __________________ "Wake up! Wake up! Wake up, sleepies, we must go, yes, we must go at once."

06-20-2002, 04:15 PM	#5
Luthien_ Tinuviel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2002 Location: A very lovely tree-hut in the Chunnel. Posts: 804	Thuringwethil, how about your namesake? Evil messenger of Morgoth, not to mention a vampire, gets killed, (I think), and my namesake, Luthien, dresses up as her to fool Morgoth. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ I am a nineteen-year-old nomad photographer who owns a lemonade stand. You know what? I love Mip.

06-20-2002, 04:20 PM	#6
Joy Spirit of a Warrior Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Wandering Posts: 1,012	Queen Berithiel and Tar-Ancalimë __________________ God bless, Joy KingdomWarrior@hotmail.com http://kingdomWarrior.jlym.com As the hart panteth after the water brooks, so panteth my soul after thee, O God. My soul thirsteth for God, for the living God: when shall I come and appear before God?

06-24-2002, 05:10 PM	#7
Pallando Wight Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: On your grave, Dancing. Posts: 101	Shelob, the giant female spider (Shelob=She-spider). Frodo and Sam were tricked by Gollum/Sméagol to go into her lair, which was in Cirth Ungol which was upon the western mountain-fence of Mordor, and she poisned Frodo, but was killed by Sam. Frodo was soon taken by Sauron's Orcs. She was also a direct decendant of Ungoliant. Ungoliant _____________\|______________ \| \| Shelob (other spiders) _______\|_______ \| \| Spiders (others) of Mirkwood Extra Info: The earliest definite date we have for Shelob is c.1000 (Second Age), because we know that she occupied Cirith Ungol 'before the first stone of Barad-dûr' which was laid at about that time (from The Two Towers IV 9 Shelob's Lair). We also know, from the same source, that she originally came there 'flying from ruin' - this is indefinite, but ties in neatly with the War of Wrath a thousand years earlier. The suggestion here is that she originally occupied Beleriand, probably in the Ered Gorgoroth, and fled southwards to escape its destruction.