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Orald · 12-13-2000, 02:26 AM

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Re: Vanyar > Noldor?

Greatest, well what exactly does that mean? True the Vanyar were the fairest and most beautiful of elves, dear to Varda and Manwe. They were also the first group of elves, and the smallest and not even one of them left the great journey. So maybe i could see wisest(as in wisdom not in knowledge).

The Vanyar were not the best craftsmen, that went to the Noldor as did the greatest store of knowledge. Another point is that the Noldor and the Teleri were noted for their strenth in arms as the Vanyar were not. And to account for Manwe and Varda, Aule surely loved the Noldor more, and it seems that Ulmo did also.

The Teleri were best in the lore of nature and the greatest in song. And they were loved by Ulmo and the maia Osse. So depending on what greatness is based on, any of the these elves could be considered better than another.

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12-13-2000, 02:26 AM	#3
Orald Shadow of Malice Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: right behind you Posts: 843	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Haunting Spirit Posts: 79</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Vanyar > Noldor? Greatest, well what exactly does that mean? True the Vanyar were the fairest and most beautiful of elves, dear to Varda and Manwe. They were also the first group of elves, and the smallest and not even one of them left the great journey. So maybe i could see wisest(as in wisdom not in knowledge). The Vanyar were not the best craftsmen, that went to the Noldor as did the greatest store of knowledge. Another point is that the Noldor and the Teleri were noted for their strenth in arms as the Vanyar were not. And to account for Manwe and Varda, Aule surely loved the Noldor more, and it seems that Ulmo did also. The Teleri were best in the lore of nature and the greatest in song. And they were loved by Ulmo and the maia Osse. So depending on what greatness is based on, any of the these elves could be considered better than another. </p>