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Telchar · 06-01-2001, 06:46 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Valar/Maiar

A couple of things ...

Arien was not fire spirit or not connected in any way to Melkor - So DAMN YOU - I had to go and look it up! <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)"> <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)"> <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)"> - Originally she tended the golden flowers in gardens of the Valie Vana! So we can add a Ninth Vala to the list!

Manwe = Eonwe
Ulmo = Osse, Uinen, Salmar
Aule = Sauron, Saruman
Orome = Alatar, Pallamdo, Tilion (nice finding)
Lorien/Irmo = Olorin
Varda = Ilmare
Yavanna = Radagast and Melian
Vana / Arien
Melkor = Gothmog

Regarding Gothmog - well JRRT changed his opinion on the origin of Balrogs - In earlier Myth there were thousands - in Later Myth he cut the number of Balrogs down to only seven ... Still I think we can put Gothmog on the list <img src=smile.gif ALT="

"> - In very early Myth Gothmog was actually the son of Melkor - And Eönwe (though he then had another name that I have forgotten) was the son of Manwë <img src=smile.gif ALT="

">

Im not sure we can count Bombadil and Goldberry among the Maiar - The subject is very unclear - at least to me!

Salmar was he who wrought the umlari (if thats the correct spelling) - the umlari was the horns of Ulmo

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Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p>

06-01-2001, 06:46 AM	#22
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dûm Posts: 316</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Valar/Maiar A couple of things ... Arien was not fire spirit or not connected in any way to Melkor - So DAMN YOU - I had to go and look it up! <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)"> <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)"> <img src=cool.gif ALT="8)"> - Originally she tended the golden flowers in gardens of the Valie Vana! So we can add a Ninth Vala to the list! Manwe = Eonwe Ulmo = Osse, Uinen, Salmar Aule = Sauron, Saruman Orome = Alatar, Pallamdo, Tilion (nice finding) Lorien/Irmo = Olorin Varda = Ilmare Yavanna = Radagast and Melian Vana / Arien Melkor = Gothmog Regarding Gothmog - well JRRT changed his opinion on the origin of Balrogs - In earlier Myth there were thousands - in Later Myth he cut the number of Balrogs down to only seven ... Still I think we can put Gothmog on the list <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> - In very early Myth Gothmog was actually the son of Melkor - And Eönwe (though he then had another name that I have forgotten) was the son of Manwë <img src=smile.gif ALT=""> Im not sure we can count Bombadil and Goldberry among the Maiar - The subject is very unclear - at least to me! Salmar was he who wrought the umlari (if thats the correct spelling) - the umlari was the horns of Ulmo <img src=smokin.gif ALT=":smokin"> Telchar Anar kaluva tielyanna!</p> __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.