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|  12-03-2003, 05:24 PM | #361 | 
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			Is it a caracter/person?
		 
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|  12-06-2003, 01:03 PM | #362 | |
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|  12-07-2003, 06:34 AM | #363 | 
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			Maybe a weird answer: The Helkaraxe?
		 
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|  12-07-2003, 10:47 AM | #364 | 
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			Ungoliant?
		 
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|  12-07-2003, 01:44 PM | #365 | 
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			No correct answer Yet
		 
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|  12-07-2003, 02:53 PM | #366 | 
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			Nan Dungortheb?
		 
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|  12-08-2003, 07:50 AM | #367 | 
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			Bad guy, not place
		 
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|  12-08-2003, 10:56 AM | #368 | |
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|  12-08-2003, 12:16 PM | #369 | 
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			Ossë ?
		 
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|  12-08-2003, 01:08 PM | #370 | 
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			A guess: Tol-in-Guarhoth (where Sauron was in the first age) A widow maker I’m called, (don't know yet) Not seen until I strike, The werewolf Men who cross me are beyond hope, except one Beren unconditional love; Luthien 
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|  12-09-2003, 06:25 AM | #371 | 
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			Telchar your turn.
		 
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|  12-10-2003, 03:01 PM | #372 | 
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			Name two people for whom 'The caragdur' meant their death.
		 
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|  12-11-2003, 01:54 AM | #373 | 
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			One was Eol. Was the other Maeglin?
		 
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|  12-11-2003, 04:09 PM | #374 | 
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			Those were the two I was looking for - proceed, please   [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
		 
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|  12-12-2003, 01:46 AM | #375 | 
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			I suppose I could be considered a bad guy because I enslaved a hero who was the father of a hero.
		 
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|  12-12-2003, 02:46 AM | #376 | 
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			Morgoth enslaved(in a sort of way) Húrin, father of Túrin...  [img]smilies/cool.gif[/img]
		 
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|  12-12-2003, 04:52 PM | #377 | 
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			Morgoth was a definite bad guy, but not the one I am looking for.
		 
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|  12-12-2003, 07:02 PM | #378 | 
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			Thranduil? He imprisoned Gloin, father of Gimli. Not a bad guy really, but he did let his love for gold get the better of him. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] <font size=1 color=339966>[ 8:03 PM December 12, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ] 
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|  12-12-2003, 10:35 PM | #379 | 
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			No. Not Thranduil. I enslaved someone who was the same race as me.
		 
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|  12-13-2003, 01:46 PM | #380 | 
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			The Sons of Feanor enslaved Elros and Elrond, Elros was ancestor to Aragorn or Elrond becasue Arwen was a hero i na way.. oh yah Ellrohir and Elladan saved Celebrian.. they whould be considered heroes <font size=1 color=339966>[ 10:27 PM December 13, 2003: Message edited by: Gil-Galad ] 
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|  12-13-2003, 07:33 PM | #381 | 
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			Lorgan, Chief of the Easterlendings in Hithlum. He enslaved Tuor father of Earendil.!!!
		 
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|  12-15-2003, 02:05 AM | #382 | 
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			Lorgan is what I was looking for!!!   [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]
		 
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|  12-16-2003, 06:07 PM | #383 | 
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			Telchar... your go
		 
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|  12-16-2003, 07:17 PM | #384 | 
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			This bad guy betrayed the people where he lived - was kicked out - then then worked for another bad guy - but was again kicked out - who?
		 
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|  12-17-2003, 10:42 AM | #385 | 
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			Smeagol?
		 
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|  12-17-2003, 02:18 PM | #386 | 
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			Grima? He betrayed the people of Rohan and got kicked out.
		 
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|  12-18-2003, 05:01 PM | #387 | 
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			Neither!   [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]
		 
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|  12-19-2003, 09:47 AM | #388 | 
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			Hmm... Sauron?
		 
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|  12-19-2003, 08:38 PM | #389 | 
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|  12-20-2003, 02:19 PM | #390 | 
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			any hint telchar?
		 
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|  12-21-2003, 06:42 AM | #391 | 
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			HINT: He was kicked out!
		 
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|  12-21-2003, 08:11 AM | #392 | 
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			The only one I know who was literal kicked out is Bill ferny <font size=1 color=339966>[ 9:13 AM December 21, 2003: Message edited by: Estanesse ] 
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|  12-21-2003, 08:39 AM | #393 | 
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			Grima Wormtoungue?  Or was that said? [EDIT] Oop. It was said. Okay, just to be different--Lotho Sackville-Baggins. <font size=1 color=339966>[ 9:41 AM December 21, 2003: Message edited by: Samwise ] 
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|  12-21-2003, 09:08 AM | #394 | 
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			Bill Ferny is correct please proceed Estanesse 
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|  12-22-2003, 01:20 PM | #395 | 
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			Thanks Telchar  This one is very easy. I was a live in the first age but not as long as my father. 
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|  12-22-2003, 01:56 PM | #396 | 
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			My guess would be Maeglin who lived 320-510 (I), whereas his father Eol lived until 345 (I) and was born before The First Age. Greetings, EfR Added: Okay, I see now that I probably have misinterpreted the question. "not as long as" ... does this refer to the fact that the son died before the father or to the fact that the father simply lived longer than his son, the latter nevertheless dying after the former? <font size=1 color=339966>[ 3:01 PM December 22, 2003: Message edited by: Elrond of Rivendell ] | 
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|  12-22-2003, 04:05 PM | #397 | 
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			Wrong answer but as you remarked, this is because you misinterpreted the question.
		 
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|  12-22-2003, 04:35 PM | #398 | 
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			Hurin, because he was shorter than his father?
		 
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|  12-23-2003, 05:56 AM | #399 | 
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			This is a Bad Guy Trivia  [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]
		 
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|  12-23-2003, 11:07 AM | #400 | 
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			Ulfast?
		 
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