** Revising The Voyage of Earendil

[Arvegil145]

Ummmhh...I don't think we're getting through to each other.

In my last comment (and I edited it recently) I should have said that Amrod/Amarthan dies at Losgar: and that it was a mistake to have him be at the Mouths of Sirion during the Third Kinslaying - that should be Amros there!

Amrod is Sindarin for 'Ambarto'.
Amarthan is Sindarin for 'Umbarto' ("the Fated").


Tl;dr It's clearly Amrod/Amarthan who dies at Losgar in YT 1497, and Amros (the older Ambarussa) dies at the Mouths of Sirion in FA 538.

To quote the Shibboleth (p. 355):

The story first emerged, I think, with the words 'The most authentic seems to be thus: The two twins were both red-haired. Nerdanel gave them both the name Ambarussa ...' It was then, no doubt, that my father changed the name Ambarto to Umbarto in the list and reversed the names of the twin brothers (see note 62), so that Ambarussa becomes the elder of the two and Ambarto/Umbarto the youngest of Fëanor's children, as he is in the legend told here.