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Old 04-26-2021, 04:13 PM   #1
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So someone awoke someone else from a pleasant dream?
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Old 04-26-2021, 04:58 PM   #2
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So someone awoke someone else from a pleasant dream?

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Old 04-26-2021, 05:04 PM   #3
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It is their dreams. Hobbit dreams at Tom's house. Their collective dreams fit perfectly.
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:10 PM   #4
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It is their dreams. Hobbit dreams at Tom's house. Their collective dreams fit perfectly.
Indeed it is! In fact, here is the exact passage:

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In the dead night, Frodo lay in a dream without light. Then he saw the young moon rising; under its thin light there loomed before him a black wall of rock, pierced by a dark arch like a great gate. It seemed to Frodo that he was lifted up, and passing over he saw that the rock-wall was a circle of hills, and that within it was a plain, and in the midst of the plain stood a pinnacle of stone, like a vast tower but not made by hands. On its top stood the figure of a man. The moon as it rose seemed to hang for a moment above his head and glistened in his white hair as the wind stirred it. Up from the dark plain below came the crying of fell voices, and the howling of many wolves. Suddenly a shadow, like the shape of great wings, passed across the moon. The figure lifted his arms and a light flashed from the staff that he wielded. A mighty eagle swept down and bore him away. The voices wailed and the wolves yammered. There was a noise like a strong wind blowing, and on it was borne the sound of hoofs, galloping, galloping, galloping from the East. ‘Black Riders!’ thought Frodo as he wakened, with the sound of the hoofs still echoing in his mind. He wondered if he would ever again have the courage to leave the safety of these stone walls. He lay motionless, still listening; but all was now silent, and at last he turned and fell asleep again or wandered into some other unremembered dream.

At his side Pippin lay dreaming pleasantly; but a change came over his dreams and he turned and groaned. Suddenly he woke, or thought he had waked, and yet still heard in the darkness the sound that had disturbed his dream: tip-tap, squeak: the noise was like branches fretting in the wind, twig-fingers scraping wall and window: creak, creak, creak. He wondered if there were willow-trees close to the house; and then suddenly he had a dreadful feeling that he was not in an ordinary house at all, but inside the willow and listening to that horrible dry creaking voice laughing at him again. He sat up, and felt the soft pillows yield to his hands, and he lay down again relieved. He seemed to hear the echo of words in his ears: ‘Fear nothing! Have peace until the morning! Heed no nightly noises!’ Then he went to sleep again.

It was the sound of water that Merry heard falling into his quiet sleep: water streaming down gently, and then spreading, spreading irresistibly all round the house into a dark shoreless pool. It gurgled under the walls, and was rising slowly but surely. ‘I shall be drowned!’ he thought. It will find its way in, and then I shall drown.’ He felt that he was lying in a soft slimy bog, and springing up he set his fool on the corner of a cold hard flagstone. Then he remembered where he was and lay down again. He seemed to hear or remember hearing: ‘Nothing passes doors or windows save moonlight and starlight and the wind off the hill-top.’ A little breath of sweet air moved the curtain. He breathed deep and fell asleep again.

As far as he could remember, Sam slept through the night in deep content, if logs are contented.
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:11 PM   #5
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To black without light - Frodo lay in a dream without light.
Comes crescent bright. - Then he saw the young moon rising; under its thin light there loomed before him a black wall of rock
It brings the shadow of a friend - Suddenly a shadow, like the shape of great wings, passed across the moon. The figure lifted his arms and a light flashed from the staff that he wielded. A mighty eagle swept down and bore him away.
And shade of fear from distant land. - There was a noise like a strong wind blowing, and on it was borne the sound of hoofs, galloping, galloping, galloping from the East. 'Black Riders!' thought Frodo as he wakened, with the sound of the hoofs still echoing in his mind.

Wake up from carefree reverie - At his side Pippin lay dreaming pleasantly; but a change came over his dreams and he turned and groaned.
To grim and false reality! - Suddenly he woke, or thought he had waked, and yet still heard in the darkness the sound that had disturbed his dream: tip-tap, squeak;
Inside the wood, by its long boughs
Don't listen to the ghastly sounds. - the noise was like branches fretting in the wind, twig-fingers scraping wall and window: creak, creak, creak. He wondered if there were willow-trees close to the house; and then suddenly he had a dreadful feeling that he was not in an ordinary house at all, but inside the willow and listening to that horrible dry creaking voice laughing at him again.

The quiet broken by a splash, - It was the sound of water that Merry heard falling into his quiet sleep
A stream that gives way to a pool. - water streaming down gently, and then spreading, spreading irresistibly all round the house into a dark shoreless poo
Yet evil is this water cool -It gurgled under the walls, and was rising slowly but surely. 'I shall be drowned!' he thought. It will find its way in, and then I shall drown.'
It does not matter. Naught shall pass. - 'Nothing passes doors or windows save moonlight and starlight and the wind off the hill-top.'

The wood is dead. It ceased to grow.
Its waters can no longer flow.
Just one is happy and serene,
Alone amid a frightful scene. -
As far as he could remember, Sam slept through the night in deep content, if logs are contented.
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Old 04-26-2021, 05:13 PM   #6
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Well, I need to go to bed, as I need to get up early tomorrow, so I will post something when I wake up.
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Old 04-27-2021, 06:17 AM   #7
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Well, let's see if I can make a good one.


Where I came from
I'll tell you now
I'm descendant of the friend
Of the one who strayed

I am the one who came to aid
To the army of the land of stone
I am the one who took part
In the plans to help destroy the One

Here is where I became the helper
To my future family member
My nephew dear wed her
My daughter wed her brother

(Given my track record, the last verse will probably make it too easy...)
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Old 04-28-2021, 03:17 AM   #8
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You being you, is it Hurin? I'm not sure about the first verse, but:

I am the one who came to aid
To the army of the land of stone
I am the one who took part
In the plans to help destroy the One


Gondolin is a "land of stone" - most of its names have a stone-word in them somewhere; Hurin was captured guarding the retreat of Turgon's army. The "plans to help destroy the One" would refer to the Nirnaeth, which was planned to destroy Morgoth, in which Hurin took part.

Here is where I became the helper
To my future family member
My nephew dear wed her


By rescuing Turgon, Hurin helped Idril by not getting her city overrun (at that point)*. She later went on to marry his nephew Tuor, making her a future member of his family.

*I guess she might also have been present? Tolkien doesn't mention either way, but she could have been support/healing personnel.

My daughter wed her brother

The natural read of 'her' is back to the 'future family member', but, er... Hurin's daughter wed her (own) brother. ^_~

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Old 04-28-2021, 08:26 AM   #9
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Well, the Land of Stone could be Gondor. I initially thought Aragorn, but I am not aware that he had any siblings to give him nephews. However, Imrahil of Dol-Amroth fits nicely.



Where I came from - Dol Amroth
I'll tell you now
I'm descendant of the friend - the Elvish blood that Legolas instantly recognizes
Of the one who strayed - Nimrodel and her friend... forget her name. Something with a Z?

I am the one who came to aid
To the army of the land of stone - the knights of Dol-Amroth, marching to Minas Tirith
I am the one who took part
In the plans to help destroy the One - part of the Last Council, planning what to do not just with the one big Enemy but with the One Ring.

Here is where I became the helper
To my future family member - by recognizing Eowyn is alive
My nephew dear wed her - As I recall, Faramir is his nephew
My daughter wed her brother - As I don't recall but is entirely possible, Eomer wed his daughter presumably
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