TIG CXVII: DEAD Thread: By the Waters of Tarn Aeluin

[Blind Guardian]

Why do we only get 20 spaces for messages? It's the worst for werewolf.

[Blind Guardian]

Woohoo! Sally comes through at the absolute perfect time!! Here is toNight's infodump for you all to digest... Use it wisely.

Both remaining wolves voted for Hui at some point in the game

[A Little Green]

Good job, fellow corpses! One down, two to go

Originally Posted by Huin

Given that Pitch "spotted her Seer hints" before she'd actually said anything which could reasonably be construed that way, I am 99% sure they're a second wolf.

This is a good point. In other ways, too, Pitch was giving off a vibe of a wolf wavering between bussing or not bussing a fellow.

Another good thing - the real Seer didn't come out despite a fake reveal, so they get at least one more dream. (Great way to go by the way, Sallycakes!) I really, really hope Boro is innocent and the wolves take his fake-Seer bait, but he might have been a bit too explicit about it to make this plausible. Secondly, if Lommy is the Seer, she's a genius with all that stuff about thinking the real Seer should come out. (Sadly, I think she's more likely to be a wolf than the Seer.)

Originally Posted by BG

Both remaining wolves voted for Hui at some point in the game

So that's two wolves among Morsul, Lommy, Pitch, Boro, and Legate. Soriman and Kath are innocent. That's good, that narrows it down a bit.

I think we should definitely do another Ghost toMorrow - we can't afford not to, given that we basically have two known innocents.

[A Little Green]

I also meant to say that Form, you did a very impressive job as the Ghost! And Sally, hope everything goes well and you'll feel better soon <3

[Kath]

Mostly here now.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

So that's two wolves among Morsul, Lommy, Pitch, Boro, and Legate. Soriman and Kath are innocent. That's good, that narrows it down a bit.

I think we should definitely do another Ghost toMorrow - we can't afford not to, given that we basically have two known innocents.

Not quite sure how all this works, but if we haven't already lost toDay, then it's got to be out of Morsul, Lommy, Legate due to my dreams.

I'm glad you are all about as clueless as I was then! I seem to have done a brilliant job of spotting innocents but not much else.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Kath

Not quite sure how all this works, but if we haven't already lost toDay, then it's got to be out of Morsul, Lommy, Legate due to my dreams.

I'm glad you are all about as clueless as I was then! I seem to have done a brilliant job of spotting innocents but not much else.

You did get one wolf, that's something

I think I'll skip the voting again toDay, as I'd have to vote now and I have a feeling there might be a few more Hamlet moments in store for us later on. At this point, I think Lommy, Legate and Morsul are all creepy so I'm happy for us to go for any of them. (I'm starting to believe our remaining wolves are Lommy and Legate, which would mean I can never trust my family again. )

[Formendacil]

I'll be around till the deadline, so if we need to break any ties (i.e. to save Boro or--even more likely--Pitch), I'm here.

Of course, with Sallyghostwolf around, we'll need more than just my vote--last thing we want is a one/one tie and she voted first on a technicality. Lottie? I know it'd be late for Kath--doubly so for Greenie.

[Loslote]

Yes, I'll be here and able to vote! It seems like Lommy and Legate are trying to push for Boro to be the other horse in the race, so I don't know how much help we can be. Better hope for a last minute bandwagon another direction.

[Loslote]

I hope everything goes well, Sally! Wishing you speedy healing. <3

Form, you were a total rockstar - that was an incredible effort, and watching Boro pick up the clues so perfectly was an absolutely delight.

So that's Boro, Pitch, Legate, Lommy, and Morsul (Day 1). Unless I missed a vote somewhere, that completely clears Kath and - I am legit surprised here - Soriman. If we recall, our Seer is one of Legate, Lommy, Soriman, or Kath, so our Ghost should perhaps lead the village away from possible Seers [/b]Legate[/b] and Lommy. Ideally I would love to see the village go for Pitch toMorrow, because of how he seemed to set up the Sally-Seer fake reveal, perhaps by looking for several "the pitch black of night" quotes.

I think Boro's decoy Seer play, and particularly the way he stopped doing it once the Ranger was dead, and his incredible interpretation of Form's quotes made him look very much innocent. Morsul jumped on Sally right away, but if all three of them were wolves, that would have been a no-win situation regardless of who he turned the blame on. Lommy and Legate kept hemming and hawing over Boro's interpretation long enough that I found it a little suspicious, Lommy maybe more so, but as possible Seers, I don't think we should paint them into a corner too quickly - not when we have a more likely wolf in Pitch. So, my vote would be for our Ghost to clear the names of Soriman and Kath, and try to push the village towards lynching Pitch. Do we have any volunteers for what we now know is a work intensive job early in the week?

[Huinesoron]

Collecting vote-tallies. Italics for innocent (including our Mod-confirmed pair), bold for wolf.

Day 1:

Kath > Morsul
Greenie > Pitch
Morsul > hS
Lommy > hS [2]
Legate > Greenie
Huinesoron > Greenie [2]
Form > Sally
Boro > Lottie
Lottie > Greenie [3]
Sally > no-one
Pitch > hS [3]
Soriman > no vote

Day 2:

Morsul > Sally
Sally > Lottie
Kath > Sally [2]
Soriman > Lottie [2]
Huinesoron > Boro
Boro > Huinesoron
Lommy > Huinesoron (2)
Legate > Huinesoron (3) [cross]
Pitch > Huinesoron (4)
Lottie > Huinesoron (5)

Day 3:

Morsul --> Sally
Kath > Sally (2)
Boro > Sally (3)
Lommy --> Sally (4)
Soriman --> Sally (5)
Legate --> Sally (6)
Pitch --> Sally (7)

Wow, we... actually know a lot. But not... quite... enough.

I do think Kath's instant disbelief of Sally's Seer claim was a bit too Seerish, and that we'll probably see Kath show up here toNight. Best case would probably be to see Legate or Lommy rock up as an ordo, because that would leave us only one wolf/seer candidate.

hS

[Huinesoron]

Updated Things We (Still) Know:

A) This information all used up.

B) None of Boro, Pitch, and Morsul are the Seer.

C) The Seer is either Legate, Lommy, Soriman, or Kath.

D) The two wolves can be found among Boro, Pitch, Legate, Lommy, and Morsul .

E) Soriman and Kath cannot be wolves.

Wolf/Ordo: Boro, Pitch, Morsul
Wolf/Seer: Legate, Lommy
Ordo/Seer: Soriman, Kath

I agree that we should send a Ghost in with this info. I guess I'll volunteer if nobody actually wants it?

My inclination is to say the Ghost should lead with a clear post stating the two Mod-read innocents. How clear is/isn't this?

~

And it came to pass that Ilúvatar called together all the Ainur and declared to them a mighty theme, unfolding to them things greater and more wonderful than he had yet revealed; and the glory of its beginning and the splendour of its end amazed the Ainur, so that they bowed before Ilúvatar and were silent.

It must be remembered that the Stones were originally "innocent," serving no evil purpose.

In a casket on a high shelf two things were laid.

He then pointed out and named those whom Frodo had not met before.

And I would ask this also. What of Saruman?

He is surer of finding the way home in a blind night than the cats of Queen Berúthiel.

~

I wish there was a better way of clueing Kath.

hS

[Formendacil]

If you want the gig, Hui, it's all yours. I'm WILLING to do it again but I'm more than willing to spread the love.

And, yes, our new, supplemental knowledge of the Known Innocents should be our first and foremost focus.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

If you want the gig, Hui, it's all yours. I'm WILLING to do it again but I'm more than willing to spread the love.

Long story short: I'm confident I can pass on the Known Innocents and our suspicion of Pitch, and can call out a fake Boro/Pitch/Morsul Seer play. I doubt I'll be much good at guiding the Living beyond that, so if someone else feels more capable, I will happily let them be the Ghost.

hS