TIG CXVII: GAME Thread:

[Boromir88]

*Sigh* I was hoping I would be targeted, but I understand why I wasn't. I let my Redrum vision get in the way and contributed to an innocent being lynched. I got caught up in thinking my words were being twisted. May Huey forgive me when all is said and done.

All I can say is if I'm lynched now we've lost, whether anyone believes it or not, well I hope they do. I will not go out quietly, if this is to be our end may we make such an end it's worthy of remembrance.

Top suspect is Legate. With that said...

Originally Posted by Pitch

To which I'd add "X doesn't suspect me, does that mean they're an innocent who has a good read on me or a wolf trying to buddy up to me? I don't really suspect them either, does that mean I should? If I don't suspect them, is it just because they don't suspect me? But I'm actually innocent, so if they don't suspect me that's OK, isn't it?" - Boro and sally, this is about you.

Read this previous day and duly noted. I will have a hard look at sally AND Lommy today.

And since it appears a ghost-Form has come in our day of need, hopefully he can shed some light on something to aid us.

(As a RL note: My birthday is tomorrow and since I didn't get a chance to really celebrate last year...apparently a bunch of people are going all out and invited me to do a bunch of stuff throughout the day. So I'm going to have to vote early in the morning, likely 9-10 hours before the DL)

Edit: Crossed with Form and Morsul

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Of the Coming of the Elves and the Captivity of Melkor

It came to pass that the Valar held council, for they became troubled by the tidings that Yavanna and Oromë brought from the Outer Lands; and Yavanna spoke before the Valar, saying: 'Ye mighty of Arda, the Vision of Ilúvatar was brief and soon taken away, so that maybe we cannot guess within a narrow count of days the hour appointed. Yet be sure of this: the hour approaches, and within this age our hope shall be revealed

Ghost

[Morsul the Dark]

So. No? I think. They weren’t able to narrow it down to a wolf. That would’ve been easy.

So maybe they have some innocent names instead.

Hey FormerForm hmm I wonder what the scope of questions is. Did you get a read on Sally?

[Morsul the Dark]

Actually I’m probably being too narrow. They get info about “wolves and gifteds “ activities which is picked by wolves.

Uh anyway I stand my original post and plans but if someone is better at interrogation have at it.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

They get info about “wolves and gifteds “ activities which is picked by wolves.

To clarify, as there are so far no wolves on the DT, the information so far was not picked by wolves but merely by yours truly and BG. However, it will be picked by wolves when/if a wolf dies, in the sense that they will be given a choice of 2-3 infodrops of which they select the one to be posted on the DT to be known to the Inno-Dead.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

To clarify, as there are so far no wolves on the DT, the information so far was not picked by wolves but merely by yours truly and BG. However, it will be picked by wolves when/if a wolf dies, in the sense that they will be given a choice of 2-3 infodrops of which they select the one to be posted on the DT to be known to the Inno-Dead.

Ah

[Thinlómien]

First off: feeling really bad about the Huin lynch, on multiple levels. I can't believe I noticed Form's death made him more likely innocent and ignored that I find that every time I ignore reason in favour of gut-feeling OR ignore gut-feeling in favour of reason I pick the wrong thing to follow. I would say, I'm sorry Huin, but since this worked in your favour last time (me ignoring your wolvish vibes because I had no actual proof you were a wolf, and you were), let's call it... even?

But banter aside, entering Day3 without having a wolf lynched is always a little demoralising, especially with having just lost our ranger. We're gonna need all the help we can get toDay.

And speaking of losing our ranger, that sucks, also because Lottie was one of the few people I was confident was innocent.

And still about the Huin lynch: like I said, I will be looking at Boro and Legate toDay. Especially the former is ringing all my alarms now that I know Huin was innocent. The way he orchestrated the Huin lynch (despite suspecting Legate more originally? Do we have a Boro-Legate duo?) then started calling everyone else wolves for voting with him rubs me as wrong as something can rub me. Also I have to confess I suck at reading Legate in ww, so I usually keep a bit of a distance to him and give him the benefit of doubt for the first few Days unless he does something super shady, because often one of us getting killed/lynched solves the dilemma for me. But since it's Day3 and we're in dire straits, I'm aware I have to start paying more attention to him.

Now onwards to toDay...

Not a fan of Morsul's plans, for reasons that I don't feel confident expressing in public.

Ghost Form! Yay! Already from the first post I can see this will be fun. Not sure I follow the dead's logic though. Call the beasts? Ie the wolves? Wolves, would you like to show yourselves?

I don't follow Morsul and Boro's logic in parsing the ghost quotes? Why do you think he's specifically talking about Huinwagon? Or about Morsul / Sally / Pitch ?

Also, G55, I'm confused, can we ask direct question of the ghost like Morsul did? I thought not?

Also Morsul!!!! Why are you voting so early!! When you just said yourself we have to think carefully toDay??? As far as I see, you haven't really spent much time toDay analysing anybody or wondering why Lottie was killed. You just want us all to follow your gut? Geez, I don't like this. Okay, possibly a wolf would not be so brazen but you're narrowing our options on a whim and I don't like that. Or maybe Sally looks like a convenient target others might get behind because she's hardly been here but she's been suspected? Red flags. (I still don't have much of an opinion on Sally, since she hasn't been around. But I see she has a posted toDay already. Good.)

I don't know. I'm immediately suspicious of anyone who's willing to dig a trench and go hard from the beginning of the Day - that's what someone who knows who are on their side and who aren't would do. As has been pointed out, toDay is likely crucial. Therefore the wolves need to direct the village to lynch one of their own. They can go hard. They probably decided last Night who they're gunning for toDay. The rest of us can't afford tunnel vision like that, we have to actually think.


edit: xed with Boro

[Kath]

First off, I love the Ghost role. I've just read through the thread and GhostForm is clearly having the time of his life.

This from Lottie yesterDay.

My top suspicions now are Sally, for what feels like an unnecessarily narrow focus on me leading to her not tying herself in any way to potential packmates, and Pitch, for holding his vote yesterDay long enough to let me make the decision, because if both were innocent and he knew it, that way he wouldn't dirty his hands. I get weird vibes from Lommy, Boro, and Legate, but I haven't had time to parse through that and decide what it is that gives me the bad vibe from any of them, and I think I'm just overall confused about how I feel about them rather than suspicious, if that makes sense.

Apparently I'm in the minority of thinking that the wolves are trying to kill the Seer this game, but going with that assumption then sally, Pitch, Lommy, Boro and Legate are in the mix.

sally, I'm more than happy to vote for today. My suspicions of her from yesterDay haven't changed, and given that Morsul voted sally and then basically got a 'we're not sure but it's a pretty good shout' back from GhostForm, followed by the faux 'oh woe-is-me you're all so mean' from sally in post 261 ... well.

Pitch, Lommy and Legate I haven't much looked at yet so I will spend some time on that toDay.

With Boro's behaviour yesterDay, I read it as his oft-used strategy of: "Look at me, look at me! No don't look at them, I'M the Gifted one! No really - pay attention to meeee!" Ok yes maybe I'm oversimplifying but I read post #191 and just had to smile, and it also made me feel that he's innocent. The wolves would want to draw out Gifteds, not distract from them, so I'm feeling ok about Boro at the moment.

GhostForm's post in #276 ... I'm struggling. Is it that on Day 1 everyone had a choice, and then the reference to the little gardener - could that be Greenie. A Little Green. So then lots and none at all - lots of people voted for her but none at all were wolves? We already know Hui and Lottie, who voted Greenie, are innocent, so does that speak in Legate's favour possibly?

Anyway. sally is definitely top of my suspect list, and then I'll go look at Legate, Lommy, Pitch.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Lommy #266

First off: feeling really bad about the Huin lynch, on multiple levels. I can't believe I noticed Form's death made him more likely innocent and ignored that

Reading this, I didn't rememnber what Lommy is talking about, so I went back and found this:

Originally Posted by Lommy #136

#61 argues for Hui's innocence while acknowledging he might be making a terrible mistake. This makes Hui look a bit better to me - I guess the wolves could have interpreted this post as seer!Form defending his known innocent?

But how would it have occurred to Lommy that the wolves thought Form was defending a dreamed innocent (ergo making Hui look better) if she didn't know that Hui was innocent to begin with?

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by The Departure of Boromir

we must guess the riddles, if we are to choose our course rightly," answered Aragorn.

Ghost

[Morsul the Dark]

Can I be honest I don’t care if we win or lose. This ghost thing is fun. Form is just top notch on the quotes

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Can I be honest I don’t care if we win or lose. This ghost thing is fun. Form is just top notch on the quotes

Seconded. I just hope we do manage to get a wolf and live to see another day for another ghost.

[Boromir88]

"We must guess the riddles if we are to choose our course rightly"

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So, I take this to mean we have to start asking Ghost!Form questions to get the messages he has, and that meaning they can't just reveal it.

Alright, is there a formal way about this...or can we just kind of wing it?

Ghost!Form have our fallen kin learned of the name of a betrayer among our ranks?

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Many Meetings

He then pointed out and named

Originally Posted by The Riders of Rohan

and five you have measured ere the

Originally Posted by The Ainulindalë

before aught else was made

Originally Posted by The Rider of Rohan

day is ended! Hardy is the race of Elendil!

Ghost

[Boromir88]

I have to admit, this ghost role looks like it's going to be a blast. It's an interesting dynamic and hopefully if we don't muck things up there will be more chances for a ghost.

Umm...so far from what I've gathered (I really don't want to be Isildur cursed so I'm a bit wary)

The first quote, from Council of Elrond is a generic "Councils will be taken. Stay and listen because we will need your help from all friends"

The 2nd quote, from The Silm. Yavanna and Orome, speaks of the "Vision of Iluvatar" so messages that the ghosts picked up from ModGod55? But that information was "brief" and "taken away" so whatever little information they've picked up from G55?

Edit: Crossed with Morsul twice