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Old 03-23-2021, 07:52 AM   #2
Huinesoron
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I took another look at the various sources (I should add this link for Vanyarin Quenya), and discovered that 'star' and 'beautiful' actually aren't that commonly known... whereas 'swan', 'elf', and 'blue' are! So I conjured up a new sentence, making use of the commonest words and a bit more grammar:

ENGLISH: An elm for a Quende, pale/blue swans for elves, all the black goblins for the Noldor-folk.

PRIMITIVE QUENDIAN: Alab Kwende ho, lugnî alkwâi Eldâi ho, ada morî urkî Ñgolodôi ho.

N. QUENYA: Alve Quendeo, luini alquar Eldalion, ar mori urqui Noldoron.

V. QUENYA: Alve Quendeo, ulbani alquar Eldalion, ar morí urqui Ñoldoron.

TELERIN: Alab Peno, alpai luini Elloio, ada urcolie mori Goldolie.

SINDARIN: Alaf Penedh, eilph luin Edhil, a orchoth vyrn Golodhrim.

DORIATHRIM: Lalm Cwenda, lûnin alchin Eldion, a dunnin urchrimion Goldrimion

NORTH SINDARIN: Lalm Cwenda, lûnin elchin Eldion, a dunnin yrchathion Guldathion

NANDORIN: Alm Cwendao, lygni ealci Edilon, ad dunna yrcas Goldason.
  • Ardalambion asserts that early 'Cwend' in the last three should probably be late 'Pend', since the CW > P shift occurs before the Telerin languages split up.
  • Vanyarin Quenya has a different 'blue' word - ulban, an adoption from Valarin.
  • Similarly, the Sindarin dialects and Nandorin are using older words in 'dunn-' for 'black. This was mostly replaced by Tolkien in other languages, but the name of Nan Dungortheb indicates it still exists (possibly this is a Doriathrin word!)

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