Password

[Galadriel55]

It would be née, I guess. Ah. ELENDIL = NEE + DILL.

[Pervinca Took]

GORGOROTH: One who loves the dark side swallows double zero, two directions and a note here?
ORODRUIN: Crooked cross. Destruction. And here we are.
RULING RING: Circle that draws lines?
TINUVIEL: Charged component in great turmoil for her. (Bested by her)
HARADRIM: Two articles, two liquids, a note and a pronoun. Mix them up to reveal them.
ANNATAR: In him, a palindrome girl meets a sailor.
UDUN: See the back of the article here, mon ami.
RODNOR: He’d be a palindrome, but a note becomes a point. (His bane)

TAR-CALION: Thank you, trumpet, for perplexing him! (Deceived him)
HUAN: He really is almost human! (Bested him)
ELENDIL: Mix female-born herb for him. (His bane)

CELEBRIMBOR: Beleg returns, with noted change and edge. Denethor’s little son completes him. (Had him executed)
RINGLORD: Call, master, and see him.
ULAIRI: Den inside undisclosed igloos? Yes, initially. There they are!
EYE: This time, a glaring palindrome!
LUGBURZ: Here’s a well-directed start. A Shakespearean snag is mirrored. And HMNB Devonport is sprinkled around.

And over to Galadriel!

[Galadriel55]

Yay! I loved that password. Especially the Huan and Eye clues. ^.^

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Which clue were you referring to with the compass point - is it in another recent password?

No, just the Rodnor one.




Here's a short one:

1. Christian prayer by pagan priest - unnoted and confused at last.
2. Outlaw's band - no, not that kind.
3. In Spanish meadowlands it gets so disoriented, it goes in two directions and is still broken.
4. No frost does stir the second here.
5. "What? Rhubarb?" said the Gaffer, "I wouldn't know if it grows there, but let me tell you, the best vegetables grow on the east side."

[Pervinca Took]

4. FORNOST. (And your weather report is probably right, too!)

[Galadriel55]

Correct!

1. Christian prayer by pagan priest - unnoted and confused at last.
2. Outlaw's band - no, not that kind.
3. In Spanish meadowlands it gets so disoriented, it goes in two directions and is still broken.
4. FORNOST: No frost does stir the second here.
5. "What? Rhubarb?" said the Gaffer, "I wouldn't know if it grows there, but let me tell you, the best vegetables grow on the east side."

[Huinesoron]

#5: I'm wondering if the Gaffer is a little deaf, and the unknown speaker (let's assume Khamul) actually said RHUDAUR or RHUNAER.

Not sure there's evidence of taters in the Trollshaws or Neldoreth - oh, I'm sorry, 'the unnamed forest east of the Sea of Rhun' - but I suppose they could grow there.

hS

[Galadriel55]

1. Christian prayer by pagan priest - unnoted and confused at last.
2. Outlaw's band - no, not that kind.
3. In Spanish meadowlands it gets so disoriented, it goes in two directions and is still broken.
4. FORNOST: No frost does stir the second here.
5. RHUDAUR: "What? Rhubarb?" said the Gaffer, "I wouldn't know if it grows there, but let me tell you, the best vegetables grow on the east side."


Rhudaur is correct! No idea what vegetables they grew there, but it's "on the east side", so to speak. Poor deaf Gaffer.

[Urwen]

Password: Arnor?

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Password: Arnor?

Beat me to it (by ten minutes).

Which suggests ANNUMINAS for #1, containing 'Amen' for the Christian prayer (minus the note E), and... some anagram of 'nuinas' for the priest.

hS

[Galadriel55]

1. A: Christian prayer by pagan priest - unnoted and confused at last.
2. R: Outlaw's band - no, not that kind.
3. N: In Spanish meadowlands it gets so disoriented, it goes in two directions and is still broken.
4. FORNOST: No frost does stir the second here.
5. RHUDAUR: "What? Rhubarb?" said the Gaffer, "I wouldn't know if it grows there, but let me tell you, the best vegetables grow on the east side."

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Which suggests ANNUMINAS for #1, containing 'Amen' for the Christian prayer (minus the note E), and... some anagram of 'nuinas' for the priest.

"Eh? No neeps here. But the best vegetables grow on the east side!"

Not Annuminas. (And before that sentence above gets misinterpreted, it's not meant as a clue). For an actual clue, you need to find a different Christian prayer.

[Huinesoron]

How about AVE + DRUI(D) = ARVEDUI Last-King?

hS

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

How about AVE + DRUI(D) = ARVEDUI Last-King?

hS

Indeed so!


1. ARVEDUI: Christian prayer by pagan priest - unnoted and confused at last.
2. R: Outlaw's band - no, not that kind.
3. N: In Spanish meadowlands it gets so disoriented, it goes in two directions and is still broken.
4. FORNOST: No frost does stir the second here.
5. RHUDAUR: "What? Rhubarb?" said the Gaffer, "I wouldn't know if it grows there, but let me tell you, the best vegetables grow on the east side."

[Huinesoron]

If #2 is purely a straight clue, it could be RUFFIANS or RANGERS. (At one point I considered Thorin's Company, an actual band, but not with the R.)

For #3, 'meadow' in Spanish is apparently either 'prado' or 'pradera'... but also the rain in Spain is noted for falling mainly on the plains.

hS

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

If #2 is purely a straight clue, it could be RUFFIANS or RANGERS. (At one point I considered Thorin's Company, an actual band, but not with the R.)

These are all one kind of band. And none are what you are looking for.

Originally Posted by Hui

For #3, 'meadow' in Spanish is apparently either 'prado' or 'pradera'... but also the rain in Spain is noted for falling mainly on the plains.

hS

The rain does tend to fall on the plain in Spain, indeed.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

These are all one kind of band. And none are what you are looking for.

Is this a reference to the RUBBER band famously used by Bill Ferny to trap the hobbits in their room in the Pony?

hS

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Is this a reference to the RUBBER band famously used by Bill Ferny to trap the hobbits in their room in the Pony?

No. A different sort of material altogether. But you are on the right track with rubber, sort of.

The bands of both kinds are specific.

[Huinesoron]

#3: just spotted 'is still broken', so RAIN + S(outh) + L(eft) = NARSIL?

#2: I have to check... it's not ROCK, right?

hS

[Galadriel55]

1. ARVEDUI: Christian prayer by pagan priest - unnoted and confused at last.
2. R: Outlaw's band - no, not that kind.
3. NARSIL: In Spanish meadowlands it gets so disoriented, it goes in two directions and is still broken.
4. FORNOST: No frost does stir the second here.
5. RHUDAUR: "What? Rhubarb?" said the Gaffer, "I wouldn't know if it grows there, but let me tell you, the best vegetables grow on the east side."

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

#2: I have to check... it's not ROCK, right?

Oh, you are gonna kick yourself so much.

Can you think of an outlaw who had more than one kind of band? Forget the Arnor theme for this one, it might be easier to start broad. Once you have the right outlaw and band, you will see how it connects back. But think outside of Arnor for now.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Oh, you are gonna kick yourself so much.

Can you think of an outlaw who had more than one kind of band? Forget the Arnor theme for this one, it might be easier to start broad. Once you have the right outlaw and band, you will see how it connects back. But think outside of Arnor for now.

...

...

... it's RING OF BARAHIR, isn't it?

In my defence, I haven't had to draw the ring yet...!

hS

[Galadriel55]

I had a band, loyal and keen...

I barely started cryptifying the clue when the play on band struck me, and it was too good to pass up.


1. ARVEDUI: Christian prayer by pagan priest - unnoted and confused at last.
2. RING OF BARAHIR: Outlaw's band - no, not that kind.
3. NARSIL: In Spanish meadowlands it gets so disoriented, it goes in two directions and is still broken.
4. FORNOST: No frost does stir the second here.
5. RHUDAUR: "What? Rhubarb?" said the Gaffer, "I wouldn't know if it grows there, but let me tell you, the best vegetables grow on the east side."


And I believe it's over to Urwen!

[Urwen]

This one is for Huey, who solved most of the clues

1. A rodent scurries backwards, joining A noteless baby cow and a charged atom for him.
2. A pronoun, a state of mind and a vowel reveal him.
3. One of the titular characters. Take the second.
4. The limping evil dude. Take the second.
5. He is lupine with a vowel switch. Take the fourth.

[Huinesoron]

It's for me? Well, here is me.

#1: I cheerfully wrote this down as "Tar-Alfion" before recognising that there's multiple notes in 'calf'. TAR-CALION, right?

#4: ... actually, does Tolkien have more than one limping character? I don't think Brandir counts as evil, unless you're a fanatical Turin partisan.

...

BRANDIR?

hS

[Urwen]

No to Brandir.

[Galadriel55]

Sador Labadal was another limping dude, but also not evil. HOWEVER, didn't MORGOTH limp as well, after Fingolfin poked him in the foot?

[Urwen]

TAR-CALION: A rodent scurries backwards, joining A noteless baby cow and a charged atom for him.
2. A pronoun, a state of mind and a vowel reveal him.
3. One of the titular characters. Take the second.
4. The limping evil dude. Take the second.
5. He is lupine with a vowel switch. Take the fourth.

3 and 4 fit the theme in a different way.

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Sador Labadal was another limping dude, but also not evil. HOWEVER, didn't MORGOTH limp as well, after Fingolfin poked him in the foot?

Oh, your second guess has the right evil dude, but is not quite correct.

[Galadriel55]

Melkor, then?

And Wulf for the lupine dude.

[Urwen]

TAR-CALION: A rodent scurries backwards, joining A noteless baby cow and a charged atom for him.
2. A pronoun, a state of mind and a vowel reveal him.
3. One of the titular characters. Take the second.
MELKOR: The limping evil dude. Take the second.
WULF: He is lupine with a vowel switch. Take the fourth.

[Huinesoron]

Ah! If the titular character is BILBO, then the password can be THIEF.

hS

[Urwen]

TAR-CALION: A rodent scurries backwards, joining A noteless baby cow and a charged atom for him.
H: A pronoun, a state of mind and a vowel reveal him.
BILBO: One of the titular characters. Take the second.
MELKOR: The limping evil dude. Take the second.
WULF: He is lupine with a vowel switch. Take the fourth.

Now the old king's dead, long live the Queen!

[Galadriel55]

One to go!

Given the limited number of names that start with a H-pronoun, I would go with HERUCALMO, though I admit I did not remember him and looked up what he did. He withheld the sceptre from his son, so I suppose that counts as stealing.

Because of the vowel at the end I was actually thinking more along the lines of Rohirric names at first, and came to Herefara - who actually fits the cryptic parts quite well but not the theme.

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Because of the vowel at the end I was actually thinking more along the lines of Rohirric names at first, and came to Herefara - who actually fits the cryptic parts quite well but not the theme.

How does refar/efar = state of mind?

[Urwen]

TAR-CALION: A rodent scurries backwards, joining A noteless baby cow and a charged atom for him.
HERUCALMO: A pronoun, a state of mind and a vowel reveal him.
BILBO: One of the titular characters. Take the second.
MELKOR: The limping evil dude. Take the second.
WULF: He is lupine with a vowel switch. Take the fourth.

I made a mistake with the clue. I should have said 'two vowels' rather than 'a vowel'.

I also wanted to put in Castamir, but couldn't fit a letter anywhere. The important ones were included, though, so you win some, you lose some. Bilbo and Phary provided the crux of the theme.

Over to Huey.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

How does refar/efar = state of mind?

It's an anagram of "fear".

Anyways, I liked that password! It's a cool theme!

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

#4: ... actually, does Tolkien have more than one limping character? I don't think Brandir counts as evil, unless you're a fanatical Turin partisan.

...

BRANDIR?

hS

By the way, if I am anyone's fanatical partisan, it'd be Morleg's. *points to signature*

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

By the way, if I am anyone's fanatical partisan, it'd be Morleg's. *points to signature*

I am fully confident you can fanatically partisate any number of people.

That was fun! I did spend a little while looking for where Castamir could lie once Pharazon and Wulf had shown up. I also repeatedly came back to Herugrim, Theoden's sword, which fits the cryptic parts of #2 perfectly.

This one is... well.

1. - The conqueror fights within? Say it shorter, flighty one.
2. - "Article," quoth the pirate; I am a pattern named for the sun.
3. - Spell the water the old way - with a kick!
4. - Spell it out: N, L, the (archaic), and marry her third.
5. - Go back to noodles with a different filling - sounds like a police siren?!
6. - The east is red - or a vowel vehicle in back.
7. - The first is the least. The pirate agrees, so turn it on its head.
8. - An elephant loses the beginning of its confused happiness, but gains the end of Margreet Zelle - behold the queen!
9. - Rings around the lower back.
10. - Seven set power around.
11. - A chemical in a swamp? Send the shephard away to find the lamenter.
12. - T. rex bangs it, the first gnomes start to end - this comes first.

(I just wrote this but I've already forgotten what the password is, so hope you're all on form! )

hS

[Urwen]

I think I know who 8 is...

[Urwen]

8 is either Telperien or Zimraphel/Miriel, but based on the clues, I am leaning towards the former...

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

8 is either Telperien or Zimraphel/Miriel, but based on the clues, I am leaning towards the former...

It is neither. I do know more than two queens in Arda, y'know.

EDIT: I've stuck an extra word into the middle of that clue for clarity.

hS

[Urwen]

And 10 is Rings of Power. Specifically, Dwarven Rings.