Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Dead Thread

[Formendacil]

I would definitely have played more WW games in the last decade, had I been anticipating this warm, cozy happiness as part of it--while the THRILL of the game is certainly in the not knowing and adrenaline, it can be weary, and that has definitely factored in my sparse playing the past several years.

(Also a factor was the job, and I think it is a great sign that the job I am in now doesn't drain me so much that WW feels like too much work--the fact that it's been quiet and I've been able to overplay at work is just a bonus).

On a far less cozy note, I did not do the math as a Living player as to how dire things were getting from a numbers standpoint, but the fact that Nilp drew attention to it was factor in my trust--though, as ye Hallowed ones have made me more aware, his timing is equally devilish if he's a Cobbler.

Kath, Mac, and Legate seem a fairly concensus "core" Wolfpack. Pitch's throwaway Day 1 vote for Kath remains an argument in favour of him being the 4th, but that's probably just me being biased in favour of my own arguments. Shasta, Sally, and Rikae all look darker to me than they did, but I sort of think Shasta might be the Ranger, Sally a railroaded, last-standing, Ordo, and Rikae the Wolf. I agree with my Living self that Greenie and Lommy look innocent--and I like the Greenie is a Seer arguments here. I guess that would leave Brinn as the last Ordo in my reckoning, which feels right.

If Nilp is NOT the Beast Hunter, then I incline to slot Brinn into that role--or may she's the Ranger and Shasta the Beast Hunter.

[Loslote]

I'm not super confident as to who the last wolf is, but I'd guess Sally or Lommy, maybe Rikae. I think Shasta might be Gifted, though Shasta always seems to be the Ranger, so that would be lucky indeed! If Greenie is the Seer, she'd better hope for protection toNight, I would kill her if I was a wolf. Pitch I think might legitimately be the Cobbler.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

I agree, Form. I'd like to vote that we have a Dead Thread every game, even if the Dead play no role. Just to chat.

Originally Posted by Loslote

I agree with you guys, Dead Threads are a fantastic addition to the game! It would feel wrong to have a game without one now.

I agree! Though in games where we don't get any vote I think there would be a fair bit more frustrated yelling...

I can confirm that being a wolf in a Good-dominated Dead Thread is super relaxing too: you're still running a deception, but since you know they're ignoring you anyway, you can play it as pseudo-Cobbler. I thank Cobbler55 for guiding me to the True Path last game. ^_^

(Speaking of which, I wish people would stop prodding at Rikae's 'epic' comment and remember that they were the Good Cobbler who started the whole Brinn-vote thing. Of course they're going to enthuse about it!)

hS

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Kath, Mac, and Legate seem a fairly concensus "core" Wolfpack.

Yes - and still our consensus actually worries me a bit. I mean when one starts to believe in some solution one's critical powers take a considerable hit; when one falls in love with one's explanation one easily stops thinking all together.

Rikae, Shasta and Lommy (or even Greenie) could be the core of a wolfpack as well. Or well, almost any combination.

Although I hope Greenie really is the Seer as it would both make sense and be encouraging if we got it right (and the wolves didn't) - even if that also makes me a bit worried that the wolves might then be after her pretty soon. On the other hand, Greenie is such a smart person that she might actually pull that trick in front of our eyes and be a wolf.

But we should be wiser come Day4.


I'll join the consensus also in the other topic: Dead Threads are a very good idea. Not only because of the nice atmosphere, but also because everyone can play the game to the end and no-one is dropped off the game (without a possibility to discuss with others about it).

[Loslote]

Speaking of Greenie, who do we think will be joining us in a few hours? I think Greenie and Rikae might be Seer-targets, and I think Rikae is the obvious person to be protected toNight after their hinting yesterDay, which might unfortunately make Greenie a safer choice for the wolves. They might also go for someone quiet like Shasta, though.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Speaking of Greenie, who do we think will be joining us in a few hours? I think Greenie and Rikae might be Seer-targets, and I think Rikae is the obvious person to be protected toNight after their hinting yesterDay, which might unfortunately make Greenie a safer choice for the wolves. They might also go for someone quiet like Shasta, though.

I think it's likely to be one of those two, and if it isn't we need to wonder why. The other choice, of course, is Nilp... I don't think we'll see him here; with how erratic he's been, the wolves will have to wonder if he's a) the Cobbler, or b) laying traps outside his own door toNight.

Could Rikae's blatant hint have been an attempt to divert attention from Greenie's more subtle one? If we go with the theory that BG was killed for literally saying 'will I dream?', then Rikae may think the wolves are going after really obvious targets.

hS

[Loslote]

I do think that in this game, with the two protective Gifteds, it has to occur to innocents that there should be at least one person setting themselves up as obvious "bait". I did it, BG kind of did it, Nilp claims he did it (all of us with limited success). So I wouldn't be surprised if Rikae decided to make themselves the "bait" for toNight.

[Blind Guardian]

Edit: image didn't load. Gimme a minute.

Okay I don't know how to get images to appear in the thread.

Oh well, attached is the voting tally. Left is sorted by name. Right is sorted by time stamp.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Oh well, attached is the voting tally. Left is sorted by name. Right is sorted by time stamp.

From which we can see immediately how bad (or unlucky?) this village has been. Five of the eleven survivors have only voted for people we now know to be innocent; if we include Nilp on the 'confirmed innocent' list, we find only three of them have voted for potential baddies. Greenie hasn't had any of her votees killed yet; Mac and Pitch voted Pitch and Kath on Day 1. That's it. Of the 32 votes cast by the current survivors, 23 were cast on now-known innocents.

hS

[Blind Guardian]

Honestly, looking at this is pretty apparent that Greenie is the stand out.

Literally everyone else voted for Form.

My guess is Legate is a Wolf. Greenie is the Seer. Greenie is dying tonight.

Unless the Ranger is paying attention and caught what we caught. If the Ranger goes after Nilp and not Greenie...

If Nilp is a Wolf then that was a good play to distract the Ranger. If Nilp is the BH imma be mad.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

But we should be wiser come Day4.

The Living need to be very cautious toMorrow. One wrong vote from an innocent and the wolves can pile on. Really I think we need help from the Gifteds, either a save or a Seer reveal, the village just doesn't have any room to get it wrong.