Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Game Thread

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Which sounds like he was thinking and writing at the same time and changing his mind about Form along the way.

But (! attention! Lommy flip flop imminent) it is kinda fishy he goes a full circle to implying he suspected Form all along.

I don't mean that. We all can see him changing his mind (or him letting us understand he changes his mind). But if he was an innocent, wouldn't he have said that:

"For my initial trust on Form - and my dodgy judgement..."

and not

"For my earlier suspicions - and my dodgy judgement..."

If you're an innocent you do know whether you thought of someone as innocent or suspected that person. If you're a wolf, you can easily miss that, especially as "because of my earlier suspicions" is kind of a general way to put it?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nog

I don't mean that. We all can see him changing his mind (or him letting us understand he changes his mind). But if he was an innocent, wouldn't he have said that:

"For my initial trust on Form - and my dodgy judgement..."

and not

"For my earlier suspicions - and my dodgy judgement..."

If you're an innocent you do know whether you thought of someone as innocent or suspected that person. If you're a wolf, you can easily miss that, especially as "because of my earlier suspicions" is kind of a general way to put it?

Are you saying you think wolf!Hui mixed up whether he voiced fabricated suspicion of Form before or not?

[Thinlómien]

++Nilp

I think he's fairly likely either a wolf or the cobbler and it's the best lead I have.

Form is my other main suspect but I keep flipflopping about him. Currently slightly leaning "innocent whose brain works in a way I don't understand".

[Loslote]

Actually, Legate's last post pinged my radar. Sounded very careful and practiced. Too late in the Day to vote him, probably, but I want to take a look at him for toMorrow.

[Loslote]

Okay, so, two each for Form, Huin, and Nilp. Form has the tiebreaker.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Okay, so, two each for Form, Huin, and Nilp. Form has the tiebreaker.

And one for Pitch. And I don't think it's too late to add another name, either.

[Thinlómien]

Kath, type without spaces [ b ] [ / b ] around stuff. And similarly "highlight" instead of "b" for the highlighting.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Okay, so, two each for Form, Huin, and Nilp. Form has the tiebreaker.

So... I know I'm Innocent. I think Nilp a hair more likely to be Innocent than not. I actually think Huin's mid-post flop on me feels more Innocent than Wolf, since I've reasoned my way to different positions mid-post many a time--and I rarely clean the post back up before hitting "post."

Pitchwife might be a hair more evil than not to my gut, but I'm wary of giving him an extra vote that might make me look a Cobbler...

[Kath]

Having just skimmed through, the biggest thing worrying me here is the way Blind Guardian just jumped on Hui's vote. It felt very like a newbie wolf following the footsteps of a more experienced packmate.

Of course, that assumes Hui's guilt but it stuck out to me.

Am on phone and can't figure out how to bold.

[Pitchwife]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I don't mean that. We all can see him changing his mind (or him letting us understand he changes his mind). But if he was an innocent, wouldn't he have said that:

"For my initial trust on Form - and my dodgy judgement..."

and not

"For my earlier suspicions - and my dodgy judgement..."

If you're an innocent you do know whether you thought of someone as innocent or suspected that person. If you're a wolf, you can easily miss that, especially as "because of my earlier suspicions" is kind of a general way to put it?

How would "For my initial trust..." be a valid reasoning for voting someone?


IIRC Hui actually had some early suspicion of Formy, then after pushing (TM) him a bit thought him innocent based on his reactions, then changed his mind again in the eleventh hour. It was a sudden turn, to be sure, with reasoning borrowed from the posts above him, but I can't find fault with the reasoning itself.


I don't get Legate about quiet wolves & cobbler either - at least for the latter, isn't being quiet kind of the contrary of their job description, i.e. drawing attention from the wolves? Which makes me reluctant to vote either Formy or Nilp (although I suppose the latter could be a wolf posing as cobbler...hmm).


Also, BG hopping on the Formy train with reasoning borrowed wholesale? *ping*


Right now I feel most like voting Kath for her misrepresentation of Hui.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

How would "For my initial trust..." be a valid reasoning for voting someone?

Because he adds the next, "because of his poor judgement".

So: "I trusted X but nah, I have poor judgement, therefore I vote X".

I would have understood that.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Because he adds the next, "because of his poor judgement".

So: I trusted but nah, I have poor judgement, therefore I vote.

I would have understood that.

I don't know that I buy this from Nog, either. Also on the list of people to take a closer look at.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Loslote

I don't know that I buy this from Nog, either.

Tell me what there is to buy?

[Boromir88]

Quick tally...

Nilp > Nilp
Shasta > Huey
Huey > Form
BG > Form (2)
Greenie > Pitch
Rikae > Huey (2)
Lommy > Nilp (2)
Nog > Huey (3)
Lottie > Legate
Kath > Huey (4)
Brinn > BG


No vote: sally

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