Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXIV – The Evil Breath of Morgoth in Dor-lómin, game thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Thinlómien · 05-13-2020, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Brinniel

Interesting.

I saw logic in Lommy's reasoning that Rune could be innocent with the theory that Legate "dreamed" him and then Lhuna trying to disregard that possibility. However I don't think Rune's behavior in itself has been necessarily innocent. Considering he hasn't been heavily discussed here toDay, I wonder if the QT is reading into something we're not seeing.

I'm not sure if I'm ready to follow the QT vote toDay, but I definitely think he's worth taking another look at.

Now that you mention it, I guess you could read me and Lhuna's exchange as Lhuna trying to look good by pointing out a flaw in my reasoning, while it didn't really work because it didn't look like a flaw to anyone who didn't know Rune is a wolf?

If Rune is a wolf, I would hazard a guess that THE Ka is too. Remember how she compared me and Lhuna's arguments (in a manner that I can't call anything but weird) and came to the conclusion that mine is better? How convenient if Rune was her packmate and she was basically saying "shh Lhuna, let the innocents faultily conclude our packmate is innocent".

edit: xed with everyone

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Now that you mention it, I guess you could read me and Lhuna's exchange as Lhuna trying to look good by pointing out a flaw in my reasoning, while it didn't really work because it didn't look like a flaw to anyone who didn't know Rune is a wolf?

If Rune is a wolf, I would hazard a guess that THE Ka is too. Remember how she compared me and Lhuna's arguments (in a manner that I can't call anything but weird) and came to the conclusion that mine is better? How convenient if Rune was her packmate and she was basically saying "shh Lhuna, let the innocents faultily conclude our packmate is innocent".

edit: xed with everyone

Hum. Could it be as easy as Rune/Ka/Eonwe?

Loslote · 05-13-2020, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Hum. Could it be as easy as Rune/Ka/Eonwe?

That seems too easy, but I think we have to lynch one of them toDay, it makes too much sense to not give it a try.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:20 PM

What happened to that post of mine? All the letters have become lowercase and I can't edit any of them to be uppercase.

Loslote · 05-13-2020, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

What happened to that post of mine? All the letters have become lowercase and I can't edit any of them to be uppercase.

It must have read : D as an all uppercase post. During the Sally deadline, I responded to a post where she said she was going to hunt me with "DON'T." and it autocorrected it to "don't.", so I think all caps isn't allowed.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

That seems too easy, but I think we have to lynch one of them toDay, it makes too much sense to not give it a try.

For one thing, it means innocent-Zil. Hmm.

Thought exercise - who's the most likely to be innocent in Rune/Ka/Eonwe?

I think Rune - I wasn't really considering him until the QT vote.

Loslote · 05-13-2020, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

For one thing, it means innocent-Zil. Hmm.

Thought exercise - who's the most likely to be innocent in Rune/Ka/Eonwe?

I think Rune - I wasn't really considering him until the QT vote.

I think Eonwe. I've been interpreting Ka's latest posts as trying to tie you and Eonwe together to implicate you, but she could plausibly be doing that even if *both* you and Eonwe are innocent, just to try to get at least one of you lynched.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

I think Eonwe. I've been interpreting Ka's latest posts as trying to tie you and Eonwe together to implicate you, but she could plausibly be doing that even if *both* you and Eonwe are innocent, just to try to get at least one of you lynched.

Hmm. Maybe. I think Ka's lack of talking much about Eonwe is telling, though.

Although I haven't looked specifically to see how much Ka said about Rune either.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 05-13-2020, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

Could lightning strike two Days in a row? There are some sharp people over there, no question. It isn't the way I would have voted toDay, but then I seem to recall saying that yesterDay....

x/d with Lottie

You know it doesn't.

But I get why you would say that.

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

The Quarantine Thread has given its vote.

++ Rune Son of Bjarne (Son of Marx)

I expected to get a bit of attention today, but honestly I thought it would have regarding the timing of my vote yesterday (considering Lhuna turned out being an infector). Really surprised as both Legate and Lalaith to be reasonably convinced of my innocence.

Loslote · 05-13-2020, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

I expected to get a bit of attention today, but honestly I thought it would have regarding the timing of my vote yesterday (considering Lhuna turned out being an infector). Really surprised as both Legate and Lalaith to be reasonably convinced of my innocence.

That's a good point, but probably not in the way you meant. If Legate and Lalaith were convinced to vote for you, they must know something in the QT that we don't in the living thread.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

That's a good point, but probably not in the way you meant. If Legate and Lalaith were convinced to vote for you, they must know something in the QT that we don't in the living thread.

Such as?

Thinlómien · 05-13-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitch

Then again, I wonder whether calling him Rune Son of Bjarne, Son of Marx might indicate that the final vote was Legate's, as he has referred to Rune and Kath as Marx and Kant a few times. Though I guess it might also be a joke from Nog.

I very much doubt the mod would intentionally give us clues like that.

Hm. Is it just me or has Pitchwife's posting generally been kinda... scrambled toDay compared to usual? Like a wolf feeling the tide is turning against his pack? I mean, I still consider him likely innocent for the crucial Huine vote, but being unlikely wolf-on-wolf isn't the same as being impossible wolf-on-wolf

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Originally Posted by Shasta

I'm going to make Lommy happy and ++Ka - I don't see myself going much of anywhere else after the events of the last couple hours.

Why does this make me happy?

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Originally Posted by Shasta

Thought exercise - who's the most likely to be innocent in Rune/Ka/Eonwe?

Before the QT vote toDay I would have said "Rune" without a doubt. Now I need to reconsider what I'm basing my trust of Rune on. Personally I feel it's a bit of a coin toss between Ka and Eönwë. Eönwë could be my classic type of kneejerkily misinterpreting someone innocent as suspicious in ww, Ka on the other hand could still be eccentric good instead of eccentric evil. But that being said, I'm still more suspicious of both of them (and of Zil) than I am of Rune.

Also I don't "distrust" the QT vote. I just don't think they know so much more than us that we should follow them without a question, or that their vote couldn't be tampered with by the evil side (even though that's quite unlikely). There's a difference.

edit: xed with the last three

Eönwë · 05-13-2020, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Hum. Could it be as easy as Rune/Ka/Eonwe?

Unfortunately not. But could it be as easy as Rune/Ka/Shasta? Maybe. If both of you are trying to pin each other to me and I turn out to be innocent, doesn't that make your suspicion unfounded, thereby giving yourself a way out of suspecting each other?

Eönwë · 05-13-2020, 02:12 PM

'Both' in my last post referring to Ka and Shasta.

Shastanis Althreduin · 05-13-2020, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Eönwë

Unfortunately not. But could it be as easy as Rune/Ka/Shasta? Maybe. If both of you are trying to pin each other to me and I turn out to be innocent, doesn't that make your suspicion unfounded, thereby giving yourself a way out of suspecting each other?

Not especially. My suspicion of Ka has a lot to do with her reluctance to go after you based on her main point against me, that much is true - but equally it has a lot to do with the opportunism vibe I get from her sally at me, which has not a lot to do with you.

Eönwë · 05-13-2020, 02:25 PM

Current vote count:

QT --> Rune
Kath --> Zil
Greenie --> Zil (2)
Shasta --> Ka
Eonwe --> Rune (2)
Boro --> Eonwe
Zil --> Rune (3)

edit: x-ed with Lommy

Boromir88 · 05-13-2020, 01:20 PM

So this might go completely opposite of what I've been championing for with the QT for days. But I do want to put a reminder that we still have the living seer, so while this is an unexpected choice for the QT, they have no known evidence to Rune's guilt or innocence. Same applied to Lhuna yesterday.

It might turn up beneficial/we find out more from it tomorrow, but for today, it's too much of a turnaround to make in 2 hours.

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Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	So this might go completely opposite of what I've been championing for with the QT for days. But I do want to put a reminder that we still have the living seer, so while this is an unexpected choice for the QT, they have no known evidence to Rune's guilt or innocence. Same applied to Lhuna yesterday. It might turn up beneficial/we find out more from it tomorrow, but for today, it's too much of a turnaround to make in 2 hours. __________________ Fenris Penguin