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Spirit of Nen Lalaith
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Yeah.
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Overshadowed Eagle
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea
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Okay, okay: a lot of Mortals in Middle-earth have some proportion of immortal heritage. Of the women who were accounted Mortal from birth to death, which has the highest proportion of Immortal in her?
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Blossom of Dwimordene
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Okay, a bit challenging to do without being able to sit down and draw things out, but here goes.
Thinking of the three marriages between Elves and Men and their female descendents, the answer that comes to mind is Aragorn's unnamed daughters, as they stand closest to such a marriage. Elwing would have a higher proportion but she is immortal herself. However, I don't even know where to start when counting Aragorn's daughters' Immortal. Do we assume Arwen to be full Elf, as she was one before meeting Aragorn, or Half-Elven by virtue of Elrond's heritage? Besides, Aragorn himself has an uncountable proportion of Immortal, as his ancestors between Elros and himself intermarried with distant cousins who also were of Luthien's line. Arathorn and Gilraen themselves both claimed descent from Elros. So depending on how you count everything, these women may have as much as 1/2+(uncountable but minute) Immortal, or as little as 13/32 + (same uncountable minute amount). * Arwen's breakdown: Elwing is 3/4 Immortal Earendil is 1/2 Immortal Elrond is thus 5/8 Immortal Celebrian is Full Elven Making Arwen 13/16 Immortal How did I do without pen or paper to do the counting?
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Overshadowed Eagle
Join Date: Nov 2017
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I deliberately avoided saying 'immortal blood', but that was what I was thinking, so 13/32+ is the number by my reckoning. I think you're right that they take the title: their main competition would be Tindomiel, daughter of Elros, but she's (5/8 + 0/8 = ) 10/32 immortal.
... no, wait, I'm wrong. There is a named, presumptively-mortal woman with a higher Immortal fraction (exactly 1/2, as it happens), who holds the distinction of being the only fully mortal daughter of a full Elf and a Man. hS |
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Gilmith?
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Oh no! What have I done? I don't know how to play this game!
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