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Urwen · 06-15-2019, 03:22 AM

Lord of the (wrestling) rings?

Urwen · 06-15-2019, 03:23 AM

Ash nazg durbatuluk

Pervinca Took · 06-15-2019, 05:46 AM

MELKOR: The Spanish alien is in turmoil for him.
2. Impolite? It's the opposite! A way of walking, a pronoun ... all mingled!
LORD OF THE RING: Rocky?
4. Mess it up, but for something warm?
5. Huge drawback to him, but it sure turns out OK!
WATER: 'Tis rare in Mordor.
BALROG: Behold ... seize ... spin ... it's there!
8. Batman has one!
9. Sounds like a pub, or pub's speciality - this trifle of Sauron's, according to Galdor.
10. One vowel-shift away from a palindrome! See it. Wear it!
11. Sounds like a disrespectful name for the Professor in a particularly tart mood.

Boxing, but yes. 'Lord of the boxing ring' was the idea I was going for. (I thought that was what Tolkien's story was about, before I read it! Many years ago).

Note I have put 'Ring' at the end, not 'Rings.' That's significant, because it refers to one particular time when that usage occurs. The only one in the books, I think.

Urwen · 06-15-2019, 05:51 AM

Giant+snag for 5?

Pervinca Took · 06-15-2019, 09:31 AM

No. Giant is the wrong synonym.

Urwen · 06-15-2019, 09:36 AM

Great?

Pervinca Took · 06-15-2019, 09:49 AM

No. Try putting things with the other element first.

Urwen · 06-15-2019, 10:16 AM

Can't find any object with 'snag' in its name......

Pervinca Took · 06-15-2019, 11:43 AM

The clue has 'him' in it as well as 'it.'

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 03:40 AM

'Drawback' is actually partly straight clue, (but also an essential cryptic element).

Can you think of something or someone that was thought by some to be a nuisance/drawback/useless baggage but in fact turned out to be invaluable?

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 03:41 AM

There is no character which fits, except Grishnakh. However, once we remove snag from there, we're definitely not left with a synonym for huge.

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 03:41 AM

Could I get hints for harder ones too?

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

'Drawback' is actually partly straight clue, (but also an essential cryptic element).

Can you think of something or someone that was thought by some to be a nuisance/drawback/useless baggage but in fact turned out to be invaluable?

Mim, Gollum and Fingolfin were all thought to be useless baggage by Androg, Sam and Feanor respectively, but ended up being invaluable at various points of time for various reasons. One of those?

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 03:58 AM

All good ideas. And I knew you'd think of Feanor's words before he ordered the boats to be set alight (as I did).

Not in the Sil or LOTR, though. Another book.

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:03 AM

CoH? UT? FoG?

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 04:04 AM

The one (and not of those three!) that was published first.

Also, try the last clue. What does 'tart' mean?

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:06 AM

The Hobbit?

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:07 AM

Then the titular Hobbit, aka Bilbo himself?

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:08 AM

Tart: sharp in character, spirit, or expression; cutting; biting:

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Then the titular Hobbit, aka Bilbo himself?

Yes.

Now ... make the two cryptic elements fit, to get the answer.

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Tart: sharp in character, spirit, or expression; cutting; biting:

Try the taste/flavour meaning.

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:11 AM

Then the 'it' refers to the Quest of Erebor?

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took

Try the taste/flavour meaning.

Sour or acid?

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Then the 'it' refers to the Quest of Erebor?

Yes, but the 'him' is the final answer to the clue.

So take SNAG and a synonym of huge, and you get ...

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Sour or acid?

One of those, indeed!

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:17 AM

Baggins (Big+Snag)

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:18 AM

And what about the 'disrespectful name' for Tolkien?

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:19 AM

11 is not Soronto again, is it?

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 04:21 AM

MELKOR: The Spanish alien is in turmoil for him.
2. Impolite? It's the opposite! A way of walking, a pronoun ... all mingled!
LORD OF THE RING: Rocky?
4. Mess it up, but for something warm?
BAGGINS: Huge drawback to him, but it sure turns out OK!
WATER: 'Tis rare in Mordor.
BALROG: Behold ... seize ... spin ... it's there!
8. Batman has one!
9. Sounds like a pub, or pub's speciality - this trifle of Sauron's, according to Galdor.
10. One vowel-shift away from a palindrome! See it. Wear it!
11. Sounds like a disrespectful name for the Professor in a particularly tart mood.

What might one of Tolkien's names have been shortened to, but never was, as far as we know?

EDIT: No, nothing to do with kangaroo snot.

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:24 AM

His full name is John Ronald Reuel Tolkien. And John is another word for toilet.

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:25 AM

By the way, is my answer to your riddle correct?

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

His full name is John Ronald Reuel Tolkien. And John is another word for toilet.

Yes, but John = toilet isn't *short* for the name John. The element you need is short for just one of the above names.

Nice reasoning, though.

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:49 AM

Short for Ronald is Ron, and that isn't offensive, and I don't know about Reuel.

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Short for Ronald is Ron, and that isn't offensive, and I don't know about Reuel.

It isn't offensive in itself, no. But it would be disrespectful to shorten someone's name without asking them, if they didn't use that shortened version already.

Anyway, it's the right element.

And you already had the other element.

So ....

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 04:58 AM

So Ron+Soul, or Ron+Acid?

Romendacil?

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 05:04 AM

Why have you changed the R of sour?

And how is it still an insult if you turn it into Romendacil?

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 05:05 AM

Oh, I see. Sauron? (Sour+Ron)

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 05:06 AM

Now is 10 about a Tolkien palindrome, or a synonym of a palindrome?

Pervinca Took · 06-16-2019, 05:37 AM

MELKOR: The Spanish alien is in turmoil for him.
2. Impolite? It's the opposite! A way of walking, a pronoun ... all mingled!
LORD OF THE RING: Rocky?
4. Mess it up, but for something warm?
BAGGINS: Huge drawback to him, but it sure turns out OK!
WATER: 'Tis rare in Mordor.
BALROG: Behold ... seize ... spin ... it's there!
8. Batman has one!
9. Sounds like a pub, or pub's speciality - this trifle of Sauron's, according to Galdor.
10. One vowel-shift away from a palindrome! See it. Wear it!
SAURON: Sounds like a disrespectful name for the Professor in a particularly tart mood.

You need to get the theme next, really. With the exception of 9, the others won't seem to have a Tolkien connection without the theme. I was hoping Huinesoron would be around, because this password was a joke/reaction to his.

If I were to tell you:

1. You posted a password with only two clues/answers. So, for a laugh, I posted one with only one. Not to be outdone, Huinesoron posted one with zero answers.

(Go back and look).

Well, I could only beat that by going into minus figures, couldn't I?

Well, I have, sort of. You'll see when the password is solved.

2. There is another connection with Huinesoron's password. The reason 'Sauron' is one of my answers is connected to the 'Sauron' element in Huinesoron's last (or, as he put it, noughth!) clue.

Urwen · 06-16-2019, 06:44 AM

Minus eleven for the password?

06-15-2019, 03:22 AM	#6921
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Lord of the (wrestling) rings? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-15-2019, 03:23 AM	#6922
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Ash nazg durbatuluk __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-15-2019, 05:46 AM	#6923
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	MELKOR: The Spanish alien is in turmoil for him. 2. Impolite? It's the opposite! A way of walking, a pronoun ... all mingled! LORD OF THE RING: Rocky? 4. Mess it up, but for something warm? 5. Huge drawback to him, but it sure turns out OK! WATER: 'Tis rare in Mordor. BALROG: Behold ... seize ... spin ... it's there! 8. Batman has one! 9. Sounds like a pub, or pub's speciality - this trifle of Sauron's, according to Galdor. 10. One vowel-shift away from a palindrome! See it. Wear it! 11. Sounds like a disrespectful name for the Professor in a particularly tart mood. Boxing, but yes. 'Lord of the boxing ring' was the idea I was going for. (I thought that was what Tolkien's story was about, before I read it! Many years ago). Note I have put 'Ring' at the end, not 'Rings.' That's significant, because it refers to one particular time when that usage occurs. The only one in the books, I think. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-15-2019, 05:51 AM	#6924
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Giant+snag for 5? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-15-2019, 09:31 AM	#6925
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No. Giant is the wrong synonym. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-15-2019, 09:36 AM	#6926
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Great? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-15-2019, 09:49 AM	#6927
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	No. Try putting things with the other element first. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-15-2019, 10:16 AM	#6928
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Can't find any object with 'snag' in its name...... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-15-2019, 11:43 AM	#6929
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	The clue has 'him' in it as well as 'it.' __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-16-2019, 03:40 AM	#6930
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	'Drawback' is actually partly straight clue, (but also an essential cryptic element). Can you think of something or someone that was thought by some to be a nuisance/drawback/useless baggage but in fact turned out to be invaluable? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-16-2019, 03:41 AM	#6931
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	There is no character which fits, except Grishnakh. However, once we remove snag from there, we're definitely not left with a synonym for huge. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 03:41 AM	#6932
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Could I get hints for harder ones too? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 03:58 AM	#6934
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	All good ideas. And I knew you'd think of Feanor's words before he ordered the boats to be set alight (as I did). Not in the Sil or LOTR, though. Another book. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-16-2019, 04:03 AM	#6935
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	CoH? UT? FoG? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:04 AM	#6936
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	The one (and not of those three!) that was published first. Also, try the last clue. What does 'tart' mean? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-16-2019, 04:06 AM	#6937
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	The Hobbit? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:07 AM	#6938
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Then the titular Hobbit, aka Bilbo himself? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:08 AM	#6939
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Tart: sharp in character, spirit, or expression; cutting; biting: __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:11 AM	#6942
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Then the 'it' refers to the Quest of Erebor? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:17 AM	#6946
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Baggins (Big+Snag) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:18 AM	#6947
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	And what about the 'disrespectful name' for Tolkien? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:19 AM	#6948
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	11 is not Soronto again, is it? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:21 AM	#6949
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	MELKOR: The Spanish alien is in turmoil for him. 2. Impolite? It's the opposite! A way of walking, a pronoun ... all mingled! LORD OF THE RING: Rocky? 4. Mess it up, but for something warm? BAGGINS: Huge drawback to him, but it sure turns out OK! WATER: 'Tis rare in Mordor. BALROG: Behold ... seize ... spin ... it's there! 8. Batman has one! 9. Sounds like a pub, or pub's speciality - this trifle of Sauron's, according to Galdor. 10. One vowel-shift away from a palindrome! See it. Wear it! 11. Sounds like a disrespectful name for the Professor in a particularly tart mood. What might one of Tolkien's names have been shortened to, but never was, as far as we know? EDIT: No, nothing to do with kangaroo snot. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-16-2019, 04:24 AM	#6950
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	His full name is John Ronald Reuel Tolkien. And John is another word for toilet. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:25 AM	#6951
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	By the way, is my answer to your riddle correct? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:49 AM	#6953
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Short for Ronald is Ron, and that isn't offensive, and I don't know about Reuel. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 04:58 AM	#6955
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So Ron+Soul, or Ron+Acid? Romendacil? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 05:04 AM	#6956
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	Why have you changed the R of sour? And how is it still an insult if you turn it into Romendacil? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-16-2019, 05:05 AM	#6957
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Oh, I see. Sauron? (Sour+Ron) __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 05:06 AM	#6958
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Now is 10 about a Tolkien palindrome, or a synonym of a palindrome? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-16-2019, 05:37 AM	#6959
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	MELKOR: The Spanish alien is in turmoil for him. 2. Impolite? It's the opposite! A way of walking, a pronoun ... all mingled! LORD OF THE RING: Rocky? 4. Mess it up, but for something warm? BAGGINS: Huge drawback to him, but it sure turns out OK! WATER: 'Tis rare in Mordor. BALROG: Behold ... seize ... spin ... it's there! 8. Batman has one! 9. Sounds like a pub, or pub's speciality - this trifle of Sauron's, according to Galdor. 10. One vowel-shift away from a palindrome! See it. Wear it! SAURON: Sounds like a disrespectful name for the Professor in a particularly tart mood. You need to get the theme next, really. With the exception of 9, the others won't seem to have a Tolkien connection without the theme. I was hoping Huinesoron would be around, because this password was a joke/reaction to his. If I were to tell you: 1. You posted a password with only two clues/answers. So, for a laugh, I posted one with only one. Not to be outdone, Huinesoron posted one with zero answers. (Go back and look). Well, I could only beat that by going into minus figures, couldn't I? Well, I have, sort of. You'll see when the password is solved. 2. There is another connection with Huinesoron's password. The reason 'Sauron' is one of my answers is connected to the 'Sauron' element in Huinesoron's last (or, as he put it, noughth!) clue. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-16-2019, 06:44 AM	#6960
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Minus eleven for the password? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.