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Urwen · 06-10-2019, 05:59 AM

Why is everyone so insistent on going off-topic.....?

Huinesoron · 06-10-2019, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

Why is everyone so insistent on going off-topic.....?

Because I thought you'd like it?

Both were raised in a forest; clearly there is a deeper meaning to this.

hS

Urwen · 06-10-2019, 07:16 AM

Yes, I do like it, but such discussions are more appropriate for my other thread, Thoughts on M(a)eglin.

Nerwen · 06-11-2019, 06:32 AM

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Another fragment from the "true" Silmarillion: Lalaith was a devil child. She would bite everyone who touched her and made snarling noises. Her name was actually Snarly, not Laughter. She was possessed by Morgoth and did horrible things to people around her. She didn't die in the plague, she was killed by her own household who couldn't stand it any longer. But because historians knew her best through what her family and those close to them said, they got a biased account of the girl; moreover, they didn't want to throw the shade of murder on the House of Hurin. So instead we got the story of a laughing princess. How do you like this alternative history? It has as much foundation as your alternative interpretations of Maeglin.

Why the scare quotes? That is from the true Silmarillion. We had an entire thread about the real Lalaith (or "Little Carcharoth" as she was known)! As I recall, we established that she bit Sador's foot off, among other things.

Pervinca Took · 06-11-2019, 10:46 AM

But were there tava beans to go with it?

Urwen · 06-11-2019, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Why the scare quotes? That is from the true Silmarillion. We had an entire thread about the real Lalaith (or "Little Carcharoth" as she was known)! As I recall, we established that she bit Sador's foot off, among other things.

If you posit that this Lalaith story is from *real Silmarillion* then so is my Maeglin account. If you posit that my Maeglin account is not true, then neither is the Lalaith story. In other words, no matter what you say, one of my faves will be portrayed in good light. So take that.

William Cloud Hicklin · 06-13-2019, 03:51 PM

Are authors nice to their characters? Nope. Just ask Shakespeare. Or George RR Martin.

In the Silmarillion, damn near everybody dies. Maeglin is one of the few who actually deserves it.

Urwen · 06-13-2019, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by William Cloud Hicklin

Are authors nice to their characters? Nope. Just ask Shakespeare. Or George RR Martin.

In the Silmarillion, damn near everybody dies. Maeglin is one of the few who actually deserves it.

How would YOU feel if I were to say YOUR favorite character(s) all deserve to die?

06-10-2019, 05:59 AM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Why is everyone so insistent on going off-topic.....? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-10-2019, 07:16 AM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Yes, I do like it, but such discussions are more appropriate for my other thread, Thoughts on M(a)eglin. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

06-11-2019, 10:46 AM	#5
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	But were there tava beans to go with it? __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-13-2019, 03:51 PM	#7
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	Are authors nice to their characters? Nope. Just ask Shakespeare. Or George RR Martin. In the Silmarillion, damn near everybody dies. Maeglin is one of the few who actually deserves it. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.