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Urwen · 05-11-2019, 02:33 AM

Hurin, whose lands were usurped by Easterlings?

Nerwen · 05-11-2019, 02:35 AM

Nope.

Urwen · 05-11-2019, 02:38 AM

So it's someone who said they'd wait until someone else returns, but did not?

Urwen · 05-11-2019, 02:39 AM

The Tale of Aldarion and Erendis comes to mind there......

Nerwen · 05-11-2019, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

So it's someone who said they'd wait until someone else returns, but did not?

Yes, but there's more to it. (And it's not "someone"- note use of "they").

And no, not Erendis.

Urwen · 05-11-2019, 04:18 AM

Fingolfin, who rushed to his duel with Morgoth and his death?

But who did 'they' replace him with?

Or Amlach, who was replaced by his Melkorian doppelganger?

Nerwen · 05-11-2019, 05:06 AM

Neither of those.

Re-posting as we're on a new page:

Forth I went to meet despair-
They said they'd wait 'til back I came.
Yet here's another in my place-
We're not the same,
But no-one cares.

Urwen · 05-11-2019, 05:24 AM

Listing all those who went forth to meet despair?

First age gives us these:

Feanor
Maedhros
Beren & Finrod & their posse
Luthien
Fingolfin
Aredhel
Huan
Hurin
Huor
Gwindor
Morwen
Nienor
Mablung
Beleg

Second age has none, third age gives us Eowyn, Merry, Pippin and Frodo.

But none of them matches the riddle in its entirety.

Maybe it's the King and Stewards. They said that they will only hold their positions until the King returns, but then they gave up on that as time progressed.

05-11-2019, 02:33 AM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Hurin, whose lands were usurped by Easterlings? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-11-2019, 02:35 AM	#2
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Nope. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-11-2019, 02:38 AM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So it's someone who said they'd wait until someone else returns, but did not? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-11-2019, 02:39 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	The Tale of Aldarion and Erendis comes to mind there...... __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-11-2019, 04:18 AM	#6
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Fingolfin, who rushed to his duel with Morgoth and his death? But who did 'they' replace him with? Or Amlach, who was replaced by his Melkorian doppelganger? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-11-2019 at 04:23 AM.

05-11-2019, 05:06 AM	#7
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Neither of those. Re-posting as we're on a new page: Forth I went to meet despair- They said they'd wait 'til back I came. Yet here's another in my place- We're not the same, But no-one cares. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-11-2019, 05:24 AM	#8
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Listing all those who went forth to meet despair? First age gives us these: Feanor Maedhros Beren & Finrod & their posse Luthien Fingolfin Aredhel Huan Hurin Huor Gwindor Morwen Nienor Mablung Beleg Second age has none, third age gives us Eowyn, Merry, Pippin and Frodo. But none of them matches the riddle in its entirety. Maybe it's the King and Stewards. They said that they will only hold their positions until the King returns, but then they gave up on that as time progressed. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia. Last edited by Urwen; 05-11-2019 at 05:27 AM.