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Urwen · 05-03-2019, 03:54 AM

So Anglachel is involved, yet it isn't. It's referenced, but not really.

It's a first age thing, right?

Nerwen · 05-03-2019, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

So Anglachel is involved, yet it isn't. It's referenced, but not really.

It's a first age thing, right?

Yes. But Anglachel is involved and is really referenced. That is, part of the riddle is talking about it directly- but it isn't the answer.

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 04:09 AM

So the warning happens around the same time?

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 04:12 AM

The Bridge over Narog?

'He' is Ulmo/Cirdan/Gelmir/Arminas, and 'you' is Orodreth.

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 04:35 AM

If it's not it, then I can't find such a passage.

Nerwen · 05-03-2019, 04:46 AM

1. No, this warning happens earlier. Years earlier, in fact.
2. No, not the bridge.
3. Yes, you can! It's... what shall I say?- not one of the "big" scenes (and doesn't appear in the shorter version of the story), but is significant in its own way.

Maybe try and work out exactly how Anglachel is being referenced, and what "kin" means?

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 05:01 AM

Maybe Anglachel is the 'future kin' of the 'speaker'?

Urwen · 05-03-2019, 05:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

1. No, this warning happens earlier. Years earlier, in fact.
2. No, not the bridge.
3. Yes, you can! It's... what shall I say?- not one of the "big" scenes (and doesn't appear in the shorter version of the story), but is significant in its own way.

Maybe try and work out exactly how Anglachel is being referenced, and what "kin" means?

The passage doesn't appear in the Silmarillion?

05-03-2019, 03:54 AM	#1
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So Anglachel is involved, yet it isn't. It's referenced, but not really. It's a first age thing, right? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-03-2019, 04:09 AM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So the warning happens around the same time? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-03-2019, 04:12 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	The Bridge over Narog? 'He' is Ulmo/Cirdan/Gelmir/Arminas, and 'you' is Orodreth. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-03-2019, 04:35 AM	#5
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	If it's not it, then I can't find such a passage. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-03-2019, 04:46 AM	#6
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	1. No, this warning happens earlier. Years earlier, in fact. 2. No, not the bridge. 3. Yes, you can! It's... what shall I say?- not one of the "big" scenes (and doesn't appear in the shorter version of the story), but is significant in its own way. Maybe try and work out exactly how Anglachel is being referenced, and what "kin" means? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-03-2019, 05:01 AM	#7
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Maybe Anglachel is the 'future kin' of the 'speaker'? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.