Riddles in the Downs

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Bump?

I'm out of town for a few days and wasn't able to check the Downs or give this a thought. I'll be back in the game when I'm back in town.

[Huinesoron]

Okay... how about either Caragdur (where Eol was thrown off) or Amon Gwareth as a whole (for Maeglin's death) as 'you for the first', and the Tower of Turgon as the second, where Turgon died in a similar fall?

hS

[Urwen]

It's Caradgur and Amon Gwareth, actually. Those two cliffs are separate, and the map shows so too, so I don't know why does everyone seem to think it's the same cliff. :<

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

It's Caradgur and Amon Gwareth, actually. Those two cliffs are separate, and the map shows so too, so I don't know why does everyone seem to think it's the same cliff. :<

Amon Gwareth/Gwared, "Hill of Watching", is the name of the entire mount on which Gondolin stands. It has one named cliff, Caragdûr, "Dark Spike", on the north side, over which Eol was thrown. That's why the map shows the 'hill' colouration dipping in at Caragdûr, to indicate the cliff.

So... do my various efforts at 'cliffs wot people got shoved off' count as a correct guess, taken in the aggregate? ?

hS

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Amon Gwareth/Gwared, "Hill of Watching", is the name of the entire mount on which Gondolin stands. It has one named cliff, Caragdûr, "Dark Spike", on the north side, over which Eol was thrown. That's why the map shows the 'hill' colouration dipping in at Caragdûr, to indicate the cliff.

So... do my various efforts at 'cliffs wot people got shoved off' count as a correct guess, taken in the aggregate? ?

hS

Yes, they do.

[Huinesoron]

Well, then:

West of the Sea my line arose;
In the Heart of the Sea we prospered;
East of the Sea we grew strong.

Now East of the Sea I dwell;
In the West of the land I call home;
In the Heart of the hero forever.

hS

[Urwen]

Sounds like Phary (who is the spiritual successor of Meglin)

[Urwen]

Galadriel?






West of the Sea my line arose; - Born from Houses of Finwe and Olwe
In the Heart of the Sea we prospered; - Her mother's kin were skilled seafarers, under the protection of Uinen
East of the Sea we grew strong. - In Beleriand and later, in Middle Earth

Now East of the Sea I dwell; - Middle Earth
In the West of the land I call home; - She misses Tirion
In the Heart of the hero forever. - Via her grand-daughter

[Huinesoron]

West of the Sea my line arose;
In the Heart of the Sea we prospered;
East of the Sea we grew strong.

Now East of the Sea I dwell;
In the West of the land I call home;
In the Heart of the hero forever.

Two hints:

1. This is a single individual living far from their kin.
2. The hero is described as such by Tolkien (and on one occasion as the chief hero of the story).

(Previous hints are that there are connections to both Galadriel and Numenor in the riddle.)

hS