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Old 04-10-2019, 08:07 PM   #1
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Thanks- and don't feel bad that I got it immediately, because I actually didn't- I was thinking along the lines of the "Man in the Moon" ditties at first!

In what I believe is an unprecedented turn of events, I actually have one ready:

The one trapped on a rock;
The beloved sibling lost;
The one who died by fire;
The like-named maiden;
The stern one, hiding grief;
The gold girl waked from sleep;
The monster-slayer
And the faithful warden.

We share these, and a name, but all's not done: I have a son.
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:23 PM   #2
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I think lines 3 and 4 might refer to Aerin and Arien?

And maybe line 1 is Maedhros?

Perhaps line 2 is Lalaith/Urwen?

Line 5 could be several people, but Morwen springs to mind.

And the monster-slayer sounds like Turin.

The gold girl could be Nienor/Niniel?
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:42 PM   #3
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Thanks- and don't feel bad that I got it immediately, because I actually didn't- I was thinking along the lines of the "Man in the Moon" ditties at first!
Speak of overindulgence!

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I think lines 3 and 4 might refer to Aerin and Arien?

And maybe line 1 is Maedhros?

Perhaps line 2 is Lalaith/Urwen?

Line 5 could be several people, but Morwen springs to mind.

And the monster-slayer sounds like Turin.

The gold girl could be Nienor/Niniel?
I had much the same thoughts. The faithful warden might be Mablung of Doriath. But who is the speaker with the son?
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:56 PM   #4
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Many of the correct line answers have been identified... but there is a trick to it.
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Old 04-11-2019, 01:57 AM   #5
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They're all members of the last generations of the House of Hador:

Hurin was held captive by Morgoth.
Lalaith, per Pervinca.
Aerin, per Pervinca.
Rian is a partial anagram of Aerin, and her husband went away only two months after their wedding, so 'maiden' is fairly apt (if not strictly true).
Morwen, per Pervinca again.
Nienor, ditto (she had golden hair).
Turin, once again per Pervinca.
Huor, who guarded Turgon's retreat.

Which makes the speaker Tuor, last of the house of Hador Lorindel - except that, by prophesied fate, he travelled to Gondolin, wed Idril the princess, and had a son, Earendil.

'All is not done', indeed; for even if the line of Elendil ultimately founders and dies out, Earendil still sails the skies as the Evening and Morning Star.

How'd I do?

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Old 04-11-2019, 02:51 AM   #6
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Very well indeed- but that's not the answer. Or rather, it's a lot of the answer- so far, most of the guesses are correct, but as I said there is a "trick" to this riddle, and the identity of the speaker depends on that.

If everyone gets really stuck, I'll supply hints as to the nature of this trick. In the meantime-

"Like-named" doesn't refer to the (no, not necessarily literal) "maiden" having a name similar to the person in the line above her. What it does refer to... is also part of the "trick".

Edit: I think I should also add that your suggestion of Tuor, and the reasoning behind it, is thematically appropriate.
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Old 04-11-2019, 03:01 AM   #7
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hS, Nienor also 'woke from sleep' when Turin found her.
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