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Pervinca Took · 03-24-2019, 07:08 AM

It doesn't need to incorporate 'feisty' - that is followed by a 'sure.' It's only 'beautiful' that is followed by a question mark.

Urwen · 03-24-2019, 07:10 AM

Belladonna?

Pervinca Took · 03-24-2019, 07:33 AM

That's the one!

Urwen · 03-24-2019, 08:13 AM

All right, I'm not gonna pretend my riddles are hard anymore, so have at it.

Me, who never saw the light of Aman
Though I have seen countless days
I have done great things,
And so did you

She, the silent watcher
The teacher and the protector
She stayed away from limelight
Except for that one time

Me and her, we both loved you
In our own ways
And even though I felt some doubt
It never led me astray

Me and you once fought side by side
My weapons and your sword
We fought against the tides
But that time is no more

Fate let you and me
Fight side by side once again
Until you were taken away
In the end, I was slain

You met the same fate
As I had by your hands
You were found too late
When it was already done

She lived on still
As was the One's will
But you and I no longer stand
Or walk together upon this land

Huinesoron · 03-24-2019, 11:44 AM

... er...

So a lot of this sounds like Nienor to Turin, but there's also a lot that... doesn't. I think the resonances are intentional, though whether on your part or Tolkien's I couldn't say.

I'm trying to conjure up someone who killed someone they loved, while leaving a woman alive, and it's not coming to me. The tradegy still evokes Turin, but the only woman who survives that story is Morwen, and she definitely didn't stand aside.

hS

Urwen · 03-24-2019, 11:47 AM

You are right, Turin is one of the people involved, but Nienor isn't. There are three different people referenced in the riddle.

Also, methinks that you forgot someone else, just as Turin had in canon.

Huinesoron · 03-24-2019, 11:51 AM

Oh! Um, hang on, is it... Beleg? To Turin, with 'her' being S... um... Nellas? Something like that.

If so, the sneaky part (other than not being the expected 'characters who love Turin' set) is that the second-to-last verse feels like it implies (but doesn't actually) that Turin's death came close on the heels of Beleg's. Which is clever worduse!

hS

03-24-2019, 07:08 AM	#1
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	It doesn't need to incorporate 'feisty' - that is followed by a 'sure.' It's only 'beautiful' that is followed by a question mark. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always." Last edited by Pervinca Took; 03-24-2019 at 07:34 AM.

03-24-2019, 07:10 AM	#2
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Belladonna? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-24-2019, 07:33 AM	#3
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	That's the one! __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

03-24-2019, 08:13 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	All right, I'm not gonna pretend my riddles are hard anymore, so have at it. Me, who never saw the light of Aman Though I have seen countless days I have done great things, And so did you She, the silent watcher The teacher and the protector She stayed away from limelight Except for that one time Me and her, we both loved you In our own ways And even though I felt some doubt It never led me astray Me and you once fought side by side My weapons and your sword We fought against the tides But that time is no more Fate let you and me Fight side by side once again Until you were taken away In the end, I was slain You met the same fate As I had by your hands You were found too late When it was already done She lived on still As was the One's will But you and I no longer stand Or walk together upon this land __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-24-2019, 11:47 AM	#6
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	You are right, Turin is one of the people involved, but Nienor isn't. There are three different people referenced in the riddle. Also, methinks that you forgot someone else, just as Turin had in canon. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

03-24-2019, 11:44 AM	#5
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,959	... er... So a lot of this sounds like Nienor to Turin, but there's also a lot that... doesn't. I think the resonances are intentional, though whether on your part or Tolkien's I couldn't say. I'm trying to conjure up someone who killed someone they loved, while leaving a woman alive, and it's not coming to me. The tradegy still evokes Turin, but the only woman who survives that story is Morwen, and she definitely didn't stand aside. hS

03-24-2019, 11:51 AM	#7
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,959	Oh! Um, hang on, is it... Beleg? To Turin, with 'her' being S... um... Nellas? Something like that. If so, the sneaky part (other than not being the expected 'characters who love Turin' set) is that the second-to-last verse feels like it implies (but doesn't actually) that Turin's death came close on the heels of Beleg's. Which is clever worduse! hS