Concerning Galadriel and Celeborn - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

ArcusCalion · 12-19-2018, 06:21 PM

Just because it involves Olorin does not mean it has to take place in the Third Age. On the contrary. Gandalf did not bring the Elessar with him to middle earth when he came in the Third Age, and we know Olorin was a friend of the Elves in Valinor, so it makes sense he would be chosen to send it as a gift to Galadriel. Both of the stories take place around the same time in our draft, and thus go quite nicely in their own little subchapter here. It is a little jarring, but it is entirely contained in its own section now, and I think it is fine this way.

gandalf85 · 12-20-2018, 08:44 AM

I was assuming Olorin brought the Elessar when he arrived with Radagast and Saruman in TA 1000. I suppose you're right, he could have arrived earlier. Galadriel and Celeborn's movements are very complex. The text states that Olorin meets Galadriel in Greenwood. I searched and couldn't find any info about this; at what time period is Galadriel in Greenwood? If it's around this time period, then I agree that the text should stay where it is.

Findegil · 12-20-2018, 05:06 PM

Olorin did not come as an Istari when he probabaly brought the Elessar to Galadriel in Mirkwood. He came as Olorin the Maiar. And as Lorinand at that time included the woods on both sides of Anduin, and the time we speak about must be when she was driven out of Eregion.

Respectfully
Findegil

gandalf85 · 12-20-2018, 06:07 PM

OK, that makes sense. In that case, it makes sense to keep the sub-chapter where it is.

12-19-2018, 06:21 PM	#1
ArcusCalion Quentingolmo Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 525	Just because it involves Olorin does not mean it has to take place in the Third Age. On the contrary. Gandalf did not bring the Elessar with him to middle earth when he came in the Third Age, and we know Olorin was a friend of the Elves in Valinor, so it makes sense he would be chosen to send it as a gift to Galadriel. Both of the stories take place around the same time in our draft, and thus go quite nicely in their own little subchapter here. It is a little jarring, but it is entirely contained in its own section now, and I think it is fine this way.

12-20-2018, 08:44 AM	#2
gandalf85 Wight Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 121	I was assuming Olorin brought the Elessar when he arrived with Radagast and Saruman in TA 1000. I suppose you're right, he could have arrived earlier. Galadriel and Celeborn's movements are very complex. The text states that Olorin meets Galadriel in Greenwood. I searched and couldn't find any info about this; at what time period is Galadriel in Greenwood? If it's around this time period, then I agree that the text should stay where it is.

12-20-2018, 05:06 PM	#3
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	Olorin did not come as an Istari when he probabaly brought the Elessar to Galadriel in Mirkwood. He came as Olorin the Maiar. And as Lorinand at that time included the woods on both sides of Anduin, and the time we speak about must be when she was driven out of Eregion. Respectfully Findegil

12-20-2018, 06:07 PM	#4
gandalf85 Wight Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 121	OK, that makes sense. In that case, it makes sense to keep the sub-chapter where it is.