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Old 01-01-2018, 03:25 PM   #1
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I would say absolutely without a shadow of a doubt.
I see what you did there.

I would put a caveat on that by saying that maybe the Nazgûl were especially terrifying to Men.

It was established that Legolas, and Elves in general, didn't display much fear of the Ringwraiths. Glorfindel charged the Witch-king himself and ran him out of the North. Dwarves? Who knows, although they were immune from becoming Wraiths.

The Nazgûl were 'living ghosts', and their horrible, unique status in Middle-earth was reflected in the hopeless wails they sounded, as well as the feel of dread that surrounded them. That fear and hopelessness, as 'stretched' extensions of Sauron's will that were prevented from release as long as Sauron endured, could have called to other Men's fea and caused them a terror beyond that endured by other races.
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:22 AM   #2
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I see what you did there.

I would put a caveat on that by saying that maybe the Nazgûl were especially terrifying to Men.

It was established that Legolas, and Elves in general, didn't display much fear of the Ringwraiths. Glorfindel charged the Witch-king himself and ran him out of the North. Dwarves? Who knows, although they were immune from becoming Wraiths.

The Nazgûl were 'living ghosts', and their horrible, unique status in Middle-earth was reflected in the hopeless wails they sounded, as well as the feel of dread that surrounded them. That fear and hopelessness, as 'stretched' extensions of Sauron's will that were prevented from release as long as Sauron endured, could have called to other Men's fea and caused them a terror beyond that endured by other races.
Wait where does it say dwarves were immune from becoming wraiths? I mean it makes sense given the whole dwarven feä but do you have a source on that?

Also on the original question I would say absolutely-Morgoth had every pawn and servant Sauron had and more except for the Nazgul really.
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Old 01-09-2018, 11:35 AM   #3
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Wait where does it say dwarves were immune from becoming wraiths? I mean it makes sense given the whole dwarven feä but do you have a source on that?
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The Dwarves indeed proved tough and had to tame; they ill endure the domination of others, and the thoughts of their hearts are hard to fathom, nor can they be turned to shadows.
The Silmarillion Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age

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But [the Dwarves] were made from their beginning of a kind to resist most steadfastly any domination. Though they could be slain or broken, they could not be reduced to shadows enslaved to another will; and for the same reason their lives were not affected by any Ring; to live either longer or shorter because of it.
RoTK Appendix A III: Durin's Folk

Perhaps Aulë might have had a bit of prescience when fashioning his children?
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Old 01-09-2018, 07:55 PM   #4
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Okay had forgotten that line. Seems Aule made the dwarves extraordinarily sturdy and strong willed.
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