Galadriel and Celeborn - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

ArcusCalion · 09-30-2017, 08:06 AM

I would greatly disagree with the addition of the boatbuilding, as this is entirely stemming from a rejected and impossible story idea. The rest looks good, but I noticed a contradiction. In Of the Naugrim and the Edain it is said:

Quote:

At this time> it is said that they climbed {Eredlindon}[Ered Lindon] and looked eastward in wonder, for the lands of Middle-earth seemed wild and wide; but none ever passed over the mountains while Angband lasted.

This must either be emended, or taken into consideration in this discussion as a point of contention.

Findegil · 09-30-2017, 04:24 PM

The boat building is impossible because? Would disagree means you disagree, I supose. I support it, so we have to discuss it out. That Galadriel wished to explore her own abilities in Middle-earth and lusted to build their a power of her own is atested in other sources. The logical means to come to Middle-earth would be the ships of the Teleri. Galadriel was the granddaughter of Olwë. Why then shouldn't she not go to Aqualondë and try her tallents on boat building, even without Celeborn being there to be meet.

For me the quote you provided refers to the poeple of Caranthir not to all the Noldor. Therefore I am inclined to think there is no issue. But I am ambivalent about this. If you find we have to change it, we can change it.

Respectfully
Findegil

ArcusCalion · 10-01-2017, 06:36 PM

I suppose there is no reason she would not have built a boat. Thus, i will concede it.

You are right, the passage does seem to refer solely to the people of Caranthir.

What more remains to be decided before a draft of the Flight of the Noldor is possible?

Findegil · 10-02-2017, 02:15 AM

I am actually working on the draft. It will still take a bit of time, since I have to formulat my comments on the changes I introduced (years ago). But I can give a release info: The boat is out of the plot. Working in the text I found that the boat was probabaly not built by Galadriel or with Galadriels help, because it is name 'Celeborn's boat'. Therefore I agree to remove it togehter with Celeborn.

Respectfully
Findegil

ArcusCalion · 10-02-2017, 06:48 AM

Awesome! When you're done with the draft and we review it, i will do one for the Siege of Angband chapter. Then all of the first age will be a wip!

09-30-2017, 04:24 PM	#2
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	The boat building is impossible because? Would disagree means you disagree, I supose. I support it, so we have to discuss it out. That Galadriel wished to explore her own abilities in Middle-earth and lusted to build their a power of her own is atested in other sources. The logical means to come to Middle-earth would be the ships of the Teleri. Galadriel was the granddaughter of Olwë. Why then shouldn't she not go to Aqualondë and try her tallents on boat building, even without Celeborn being there to be meet. For me the quote you provided refers to the poeple of Caranthir not to all the Noldor. Therefore I am inclined to think there is no issue. But I am ambivalent about this. If you find we have to change it, we can change it. Respectfully Findegil

10-01-2017, 06:36 PM	#3
ArcusCalion Quentingolmo Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 525	I suppose there is no reason she would not have built a boat. Thus, i will concede it. You are right, the passage does seem to refer solely to the people of Caranthir. What more remains to be decided before a draft of the Flight of the Noldor is possible?

10-02-2017, 02:15 AM	#4
Findegil King's Writer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,721	I am actually working on the draft. It will still take a bit of time, since I have to formulat my comments on the changes I introduced (years ago). But I can give a release info: The boat is out of the plot. Working in the text I found that the boat was probabaly not built by Galadriel or with Galadriels help, because it is name 'Celeborn's boat'. Therefore I agree to remove it togehter with Celeborn. Respectfully Findegil

10-02-2017, 06:48 AM	#5
ArcusCalion Quentingolmo Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 525	Awesome! When you're done with the draft and we review it, i will do one for the Siege of Angband chapter. Then all of the first age will be a wip!