Werewolf CXII - Dueling Wizards III - The Living Thread

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

You're just saying that, Brinniel, because you would obviously have been chosen by every one of us by now.

Anyway, we have to try and second-guess our enemy.

Just look at the list of The Living:

Nerwen
Boromir88
Shastanis Althreduin
satansaloser2005
Eomer of the Rohirrim
Lalaith
Legate of Amon Lanc
Eönwë
Nogrod
Brinniel

That is what I would call 'loudmouth-heavy'; it's only being balanced somewhat by Shasta & Sally being quieter than normal. Add the lynchees to this: Inzil fits in nicely; and Loslote certainly got stuck right in.

There's one or two quieter types in there. What I need to consider is: how safe is the quiet wolf in this place?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Chin up Lal, we're bound to get info at some point. Still got the duel to come. And the smaller the village gets the more likely we are to bag one of these hideous wolves.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

There's one or two quieter types in there. What I need to consider is: how safe is the quiet wolf in this place?

That's actually a pretty good point. Which brings me back to my thoughts earlier on regarding Brinniel, Mith, and Sally. Okay, now Mith is dead, plus Brinniel isn't really that quiet anymore. Problem is, it's really difficult to keep track of people when they are not posting much. Like Sally hasn't posted practically anything toDay. (Nor much before, for that matter.) But exactly that kind of tactic could keep her completely off everyone's radar.

EDIT: x-ed with Nog

[Nogrod]

I think I have problem following most everyone's track... *

I have no chance of doing this toDay, but will try to do it toMorrow if I'm still around - if I'm not, I suggest someone does it - or some people do it collectively (and if someone already has this kind of a list, please share it).

So looking back to everyone alive to see whom they have actually voiced suspicion over. I mean voiced a suspicion, not anything like "X is always suspicious" or first Day "you must be a wolf" -banter. But like actually declaring one suspects some another person X.

I'll bet that most evil can be found from among those who have not voiced open suspicions on anyone or have made them of only one or few people - possibly such whom others have voiced suspicions already. Voicing open suspicions is always dangerous and suspecting many draws you near the gallows as people, quite naturally, feel bad about it and, if innocent, start to see evil in the suspecter (or if evil can use it as a reason to vote back - or at least suspect that person back).

Also seeing all the "real suspicions" might help to build a larger picture of relations, which there sure are already now. Just looking at the voting patterns is not that productive, especially as we don't know things like we normally would do after lynchings.

So that's a suggestion for toMorrow.

Now thinking of voting...


EDIT: The beginning is an answer to this by Legate: "Problem is, it's really difficult to keep track of people when they are not posting much."
EDIT2: I'll promise to stop editing...

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

2 votes for Nog and 1 for Legate.

So who's around? And, as is tradition, anyone for no-lynch?

[Nogrod]

I seem to be, even if I though trying to go to bed early. But yes, half an hour only so might actually sit it to the end.

Few thoughts to follow.

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Actually the biggest submarine is poor sick Shasta...(16 posts) followed by Sally and Brinn (22 each). Eomer is fourth lowest living poster with 32.

I don't know, I would argue that Sally is the biggest submarine. While Shasta may have less posts, I feel like his at least have more content than hers.

EDIT: X-post...and coincidentally Sally has posted some more content.

[Kuruharan]

The Deadline has come.

Please stop posting.

Narration to follow.

[Nogrod]

If we think the Dead communicated to us then Zil was innocent. Of the Zil band-wagon there are three alive toDay: Nerwen, Boro and Eönwe.

YesterDay two of these, Nerwen and Eönwe, voted for an innocent person trying seriously to get the ball rolling - and they have continued with the same target toDay. You naturally do not know this target's innocence, but I do.

If I was the EW, I would have chosen people like Brinn or Lalaith if looking for easy-going trustworthy wolves, or then maybe Nerwen for more effect. Correct me if I'm wrong, but when have you seen one of these to be lynched early in the game? A submarine is oftentimes a safe bet as well as they tend to be seldom lynched (there's always a "better" candidate).

I see one name popping out from all the three situations...

[satansaloser2005]

This has probably already been said, but I feel like finding out Lottie's role ASAP will give us some good ideas about others. For instance, if she is a wolf, Nog probably needs to shave, etc.


Nerwen: Pinging my radar as someone to watch, but not yet suspicious of her.
Boro: Not likely a wolf, but perhaps an evil wizard who knew he couldn't die via lynch? Watch, now this is how I die.
Shasta: My poor sick little wolf boy. *nuzzles* Poor darling. Don't hurt him! (To clarify, this is what I call him quite often. I feel his quietness is not suspect, but it also admittedly doesn't give us a lot to go on.)
Sally: A good little cupcake.
Eomer: He of the no-lynch. Frustrating (), but I still believe him to be good.
Lalaith: No read whatsoever. Lal, what witchcraft is this? I can never read you!
Legate: Reasonable enough, but he seems oddly....chill? This of course isn't a bad thing, but his tone reads like a past Legate wolf. In my top few candidates, but not my priority at the moment.
Steve: My top choice for lynch toDay based on yesterDay, but see below.
Nogrod: Uhhhhh, his vote yesterDay looks highly suspect coupled with my suspicion of Lottie. I wouldn't be averse to lynching him toDay out of caution, though I'd like to know Lottie's alignment first, as something doesn't sit right.
Brinniel: Quiet like myself. I have a niggle I need to dig into further before I let my imagination get the best of me, so I'll check it out later and post it tomorrow either here or on the Dead Thread. It may be nothing, but I'll find out.


x'd since Lal's ranking of the submarines

[Shastanis Althreduin]

++Legate I still feel that he's evil. I know I haven't given any real argument towards that being the case, and I apologize for being so very lackluster.

[Brinniel]

My top suspects for lynching are Legate and Eonwe. Legate for reasons I stated earlier toDay and my opinion of Eonwe has not changed since yesterDay.

Nogrod is another I'm still considering, but I'm feeling slightly hesitant about him.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

All right

Wizards: Nerwen & Brinniel

Wolves/Gifteds: (Loslote), Boro, Lalaith, Shasta, Sally, Legate

Poor little ordos: Eonwe, Nogrod, and me.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm gonna guess both Nogrod and Legate are around and willing to lynch Boro?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Of course, we're all in the same group (with Lalaith) if the Dead want to indicate that Loslote was predator - does that matter?

[Nogrod]

I kind of doubted Boro would be a wolf, but then someone made a fair point: after seeing that he survived the D1-stuff the EW realised he'd sail through and turned him.

Like said, I'm not sure it is a great reason to vote for someone, but it is reason, especially if one thinks the person acts fishy or oddly anyway.

[Nogrod]

I'm all for lynching Eönwe, not that much for Legate - I have doubts on everyone, naturally, but nothing special towards him (his latest posts have seem okay to me).

[Lalaith]

Ok, I don't know what to do.
Nogs was ringing alarm bells all over the place for me yesterDay at DL and i was, at the time, thinking "oh my goodness what is this, I am so going to push for a lynch if I survive the night". (Well I thought something along those lines but I've cleaned it up as we can't cuss on the Downs) And what is worrying me is that he keeps explaining why he missed the deadline but hasn't explained why he needed to wait *until* the deadline

I would still be up for voting to lynch Boro. Particularly as he said he wasn't going to be weird anymore and then his vote for Legate was really weird.

Eomer I voted for on Day 2 but then other people started worrying me more: he is being very insouciant and genial at the moment and that's nice, but I wonder if I was wrong to take my eye off him. Nobody else seems to suspect him though.

And then there's Eonwe. He's like one of those pictures where you don't know if you see a vase or two faces...one minute I look and see innocence, the next I totally see why Brinn was gunning for him.

I do not think Legate is guilty and won't vote for him. I am totally at sea about Nogs. I fear I will regret whatever I do.

[Lalaith]

++ Boro