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Mithalwen · 07-17-2017, 02:28 PM

Just reading through and have horrible thought that Boro is a wolf. IIRC he tends to give a clue to his role in his opening post and he says he feels denned up. And I am not sure that the deathwish is a contraindicator. He likes doing his own thing,

Loslote · 07-17-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Just reading through and have horrible thought that Boro is a wolf. IIRC he tends to give a clue to his role in his opening post and he says he feels denned up. And I am not sure that the deathwish is a contraindicator. He likes doing his own thing,

In that case, his deathwish Day One could point to Nerwen as EW, for the same reason it pointed to me. And he would have then backed off later because he'd had a chance to build trails to his packmates and the EW, so there's now a risk associated with his role being revealed. I'm worried about that, too.

Inziladun · 07-17-2017, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Loslote

In that case, his deathwish Day One could point to Nerwen as EW, for the same reason it pointed to me. And he would have then backed off later because he'd had a chance to build trails to his packmates and the EW, so there's now a risk associated with his role being revealed. I'm worried about that, too.

If that's the case, and if they don't alter the Empowerment plan further toDay, how does that affect out vote?

Morsul the Dark · 07-17-2017, 03:05 PM

I'm still ok with empowering Nerwen.

Frankly I'm crunching the numbers and I only see getting the EW Revealed as the only strategy because it throws the numbers off.

Loslote · 07-17-2017, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

I'm still ok with empowering Nerwen.

Frankly I'm crunching the numbers and I only see getting the EW Revealed as the only strategy because it throws the numbers off.

I'm really crossing my fingers that the GW can scry the EW and call the Duel...I'd prefer getting rid of the EW to getting another Visitor, if it comes down to that, and I agree that the EW needs to go asap.

Loslote · 07-17-2017, 03:22 PM

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1. Why,why, WHY did Nogs throw in what looked like a 'wasted' vote for Eonwe after deadline when his own neck was on the line along with that of Lottie and Boro?
2. Is there any possible way Eonwe and Nogs could be on the same side?
3. Why do both Nerwen and Eomer trust Eonwe' innocence so much?
4. Why are Sally and Shasta so damn quiet?
5. Wouldn't Brinn have been a great candidate for wolf conversion?
6. Am I being real airhead by vaguely trusting Nerwen and Legate to be innocents?
7. How has Boro survived this long?

Bet you the pack is Lal, Nerwen, Legate and Nog. Here Lal is trying to suggest that Nerwen and Legate are, and probably should be, presumed innocent, and also trying to tie together Nog and Steve, probably assuming that Nog is lost and hoping to get people thinking that Steve is the packmate rather than herself, Nerwen, and Legate - who pulled back at the last minute yesterDay and saved him.

Loslote · 07-17-2017, 03:24 PM

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Bet you the pack is Lal, Nerwen, Legate and Nog. Here Lal is trying to suggest that Nerwen and Legate are, and probably should be, presumed innocent, and also trying to tie together Nog and Steve, probably assuming that Nog is lost and hoping to get people thinking that Steve is the packmate rather than herself, Nerwen, and Legate - who pulled back at the last minute yesterDay and saved him.

Further speculation, I think Lal was the most recent convert. I bet Nerwen is EW, Legate was first pick, and Nog was second. If I'm right, I expect my grave to be *littered* in flowers, people.

Mithalwen · 07-17-2017, 03:09 PM

Is Shasta an alternative? Has he posted.. I know he has been ill. I recall his judgement saved the day the last time I played. But there could be a lot of wolves active now

Loslote · 07-17-2017, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

If that's the case, and if they don't alter the Empowerment plan further toDay, how does that affect out vote?

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Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Is Shasta an alternative? Has he posted.. I know he has been ill. I recall his judgement saved the day the last time I played. But there could be a lot of wolves active now

Shasta said he might vote for Legate. I'm certainly wary of Legate, but I think I'm more suspicious of Nog. I don't know that anyone has talked much about Nerwen or Boro toDay as a voting option, so we may have to stick to the options in front of us, that is, Nog and maybe Legate.

Mithalwen · 07-17-2017, 03:23 PM

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Shasta said he might vote for Legate. I'm certainly wary of Legate, but I think I'm more suspicious of Nog. I don't know that anyone has talked much about Nerwen or Boro toDay as a voting option, so we may have to stick to the options in front of us, that is, Nog and maybe Legate.

Oh I meant as empowerment vote rather than Nerwen to indicate your status.

Mithalwen · 07-17-2017, 03:25 PM

Bungs my Boro theory. But Lal is deffo something IMO she was fishing for my vote but I didn't think it appropriate to post it in the circumstances.

Thinlómien · 07-17-2017, 03:24 PM

Tbh Nogrod getting the two first votes like that makes him seem more innocent and those who voted him look guilty. It's like the evil team is setting him up for an easy lynch and I don't like it. If we have a choice, I'd rather not empower a vote for him.

As for Mith potentially being a visitor - which would be nice - well, the thing I personally hope the living would do would be looking at the whole picture. Thinking of possible teams. Thinking who can realistically be the evil wizard. There are not that many options that are very likely.

And that we should probably stop this empowerment communication soon because it's getting dangerous and it doesn't help us so much.

Edit: xed with the last four posts

Loslote · 07-17-2017, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Tbh Nogrod getting the two first votes like that makes him seem more innocent and those who voted him look guilty. It's like the evil team is setting him up for an easy lynch and I don't like it. If we have a choice, I'd rather not empower a vote for him.

I'm guessing the wolves have written him off as too suspicious to save, and are trying to get him lynched so that they can pick a fourth wolf toNight before the Weeeeeezard's Dueeeeel.

Morsul the Dark · 07-17-2017, 03:28 PM

Nog could be a bandwagon vote of wolves OR could be two innocents voting Nog and when it backfires the wolves can point at the innocents. If they last that long.

Inziladun · 07-17-2017, 03:28 PM

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And that we should probably stop this empowerment communication soon because it's getting dangerous and it doesn't help us so much.

Well, it doesn't help us in the slightest.

But how much does it help the living?

I guess we do need to go ahead and let them know Lottie's innocent.
So, would that lead us to Shasta or Sally?

x/d with last three

Loslote · 07-17-2017, 03:40 PM

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I'm back! And very suspicious of everyone.

Hard same

Kuruharan · 07-17-2017, 06:00 PM

Deadline has come...for what that's worth here...

07-17-2017, 02:28 PM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Just reading through and have horrible thought that Boro is a wolf. IIRC he tends to give a clue to his role in his opening post and he says he feels denned up. And I am not sure that the deathwish is a contraindicator. He likes doing his own thing, __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-17-2017, 03:05 PM	#4
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	I'm still ok with empowering Nerwen. Frankly I'm crunching the numbers and I only see getting the EW Revealed as the only strategy because it throws the numbers off. __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

07-17-2017, 03:09 PM	#8
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Is Shasta an alternative? Has he posted.. I know he has been ill. I recall his judgement saved the day the last time I played. But there could be a lot of wolves active now __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-17-2017, 03:25 PM	#11
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	Bungs my Boro theory. But Lal is deffo something IMO she was fishing for my vote but I didn't think it appropriate to post it in the circumstances. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

07-17-2017, 03:24 PM	#12
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Tbh Nogrod getting the two first votes like that makes him seem more innocent and those who voted him look guilty. It's like the evil team is setting him up for an easy lynch and I don't like it. If we have a choice, I'd rather not empower a vote for him. As for Mith potentially being a visitor - which would be nice - well, the thing I personally hope the living would do would be looking at the whole picture. Thinking of possible teams. Thinking who can realistically be the evil wizard. There are not that many options that are very likely. And that we should probably stop this empowerment communication soon because it's getting dangerous and it doesn't help us so much. Edit: xed with the last four posts __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

07-17-2017, 03:28 PM	#14
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	Nog could be a bandwagon vote of wolves OR could be two innocents voting Nog and when it backfires the wolves can point at the innocents. If they last that long. __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

07-17-2017, 06:00 PM	#17
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	Deadline Deadline has come...for what that's worth here... __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...