6 Degrees of Separation - Page 38 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Galadriel55 · 11-14-2010, 05:03 PM

You are correct, Andsigil!

Nerwen · 11-14-2010, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andsigil

As for the earlier rules clarifications, I believe also that we were supposed to avoid using Gandalf and Sauron.

I can't remember if Elrond applies, too. If he does, then my answer is invalid (assuming I otherwise had the right answer) and the puzzle can remain open.

Sorry, I forgot about that one. It's Gandalf, Sauron and Saruman you're supposed to avoid.

Galadriel55 · 11-14-2010, 08:07 PM

Radagast>Mouth of Sauron

Then here's another solution without any of them:
Radagast--Eagles--Bilbo--Frodo--Pippin--Mouth of Sauron

Either way, it's Andsigil's turn now.

Andsigil · 11-14-2010, 09:00 PM

Mouth of Sauron --> Nimrodel

Galadriel55 · 11-15-2010, 05:30 PM

Mouth of Sauron--Legolas--Galadriel (quite possible to use another Elf here)--Nimrodel

Galadriel could be excluded if Legolas' song about Nimrodel counts as a connection, which I doubt.

Andsigil · 11-15-2010, 08:41 PM

Your turn.

Galadriel55 · 11-15-2010, 08:58 PM

This is an easy one, but I can't think of anything better for the moment.
Mauhur--->Deagol

Lindolirian · 12-13-2010, 05:51 PM

Mauhur -> Grishnakh -> Pippin -> Sam -> Smeagol -> Deagol

Galadriel55 · 12-13-2010, 06:37 PM

Yup!

Lindolirian · 11-13-2015, 09:31 AM

Balan -> Lotho

Galadriel55 · 11-13-2015, 02:21 PM

Balan (Beor) -- Finrod -- Galadriel -- Frodo -- Lotho

Lindolirian · 11-18-2015, 03:33 PM

That's it! The thread is yours!

Galadriel55 · 11-18-2015, 06:16 PM

Oh man... That "Yup" post of mine - I was only two months dead when I made it! That's scary! 2010 can't be that long ago!

Earwen -- Aratan

Andsigil · 12-07-2015, 05:35 AM

Earwen - Galadriel - Elrond - Isildur - Aratan?

Maybe it could go directly from Elrond to Aratan and skip Isildur. At some point I suppose Elrond could have met Isildur's son, but I don't know if there's any actual proof of such a meeting.

Galadriel55 · 12-07-2015, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andsigil

Earwen - Galadriel - Elrond - Isildur - Aratan?

Maybe it could go directly from Elrond to Aratan and skip Isildur. At some point I suppose Elrond could have met Isildur's son, but I don't know if there's any actual proof of such a meeting.

The thread is yours!

I suppose they've met, but since we're not sure about direct interaction I went with either Isildur or else Valandil as the link.

Andsigil · 12-07-2015, 09:39 AM

Ingwë to Uglúk

Andsigil · 12-11-2015, 07:15 PM

<bump>

Rune Son of Bjarne · 02-18-2016, 04:01 AM

Ingwë - Manwë - Aulë - Saruman - Uglúk

Andsigil · 02-18-2016, 04:39 AM

Correct! Your turn.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 02-18-2016, 06:05 AM

Fingolfin to Tar-Miriel

Urwen · 02-18-2016, 01:01 PM

Well, let me take a bite, as I know the possible link

Fingolfin - Morgoth - Sauron - Ar-Pharazon - Tar-Miriel

Dat gud enuf, siree?

Nerwen · 02-18-2016, 10:08 PM

Ahem.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Roolz

Try not to use Gandalf, Saurman,or Sauron if it can be helped. These people have a link to just about everybody.

Urwen · 02-19-2016, 04:35 AM

But then it becomes more than six degrees.

Nerwen · 02-20-2016, 03:26 AM

What about Fingolfin - Fingon - Gil-galad - Elendil - Amandil - Tar-Miriel?

Urwen · 02-20-2016, 11:47 AM

I thought about it, but it is never implied that Gil-Galad and Elendil met.

Nerwen · 02-21-2016, 02:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

I thought about it, but it is never implied that Gil-Galad and Elendil met.

Pretty strongly implied, I should say.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 02-21-2016, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Well, let me take a bite, as I know the possible link

Fingolfin - Morgoth - Sauron - Ar-Pharazon - Tar-Miriel

Dat gud enuf, siree?

Good enuf for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Ahem.

'Try' being the key word here.

Urwen · 02-22-2016, 07:45 AM

Well then, how about I steal one of your links?

Fingolfin - Elwing

Andsigil · 05-04-2016, 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Well then, how about I steal one of your links?

Fingolfin - Elwing

This one is surprisingly difficult for two elves in the First Age...

How about: Fingolfin -> Turgon -> Tuor -> Earendil -> Elwing ?

Rune Son of Bjarne · 07-16-2016, 11:32 AM

Seems legit to me Andsigil, if Urwen does not reply, I think you can just take the thread.

Urwen · 04-11-2019, 12:37 PM

Correct.

Huinesoron · 04-24-2019, 06:04 AM

Since Urwen bumped this up a couple of weeks ago, how about I give a puzzle?

Narvi -> Maeglin (just for you, Urwen!).

I can do this in 6 (assuming that means '6 names total', including both ends) several ways, and 5 by at least two slightly cheeky routes... oh, and 3 by a very cheeky route. No Sauron, Gandalf, or Saruman required.

(If you include a non-obvious link, it'd be nice to get an explanation for it - that's how we learn random trivia, after all!)

hS

Urwen · 04-24-2019, 06:14 AM

Narvi>Celebrimbor>Curufin>Celegorm>Aredhel>Maeglin

Huinesoron · 04-24-2019, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

Narvi>Celebrimbor>Curufin>Celegorm>Aredhel>Maeglin

Hah, didn't even think of the fact that Cel'n'Cur met Aredhel & Eol. Nice.

Care to try for a shorter route, or do you just want to post your own?

hS

Urwen · 04-24-2019, 06:25 AM

I'll try for the shorter route

Narvi>Celebrimbor>Turgon>Aredhel>Maeglin

OR

Narvi>Celebrimbor>Turgon>Idril>Maeglin

Huinesoron · 04-24-2019, 06:27 AM

What's your link from Celebrimbor to Turgon, other than them being... some sort of cousins?

hS

Urwen · 04-24-2019, 06:31 AM

According to one version of legendarium, Celebrimbor lived in Gondolin for a time, where he made the early prototype of the stone known as Elessar for Turgon.

Huinesoron · 04-24-2019, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

According to one version of legendarium, Celebrimbor lived in Gondolin for a time, where he made the early prototype of the stone known as Elessar for Turgon.

Ah, right. That would be my super cheeky version, which in fact doesn't need to go through Aredhel, Idril, or even Turgon: the laws of Gondolin say that no-one leaves, which means Celebrimbor would have met Maeglin directly.

The route I first thought of was Narvi-Celebrimbor-Finrod-Ulmo-Tuor-Maeglin, which is definitely beaten by either of yours (you can actually skip Celegorm on your first one - Curufin talks directly to Eol). So I think I'll pass it over to you at this point.

(I also had one which took advantage of the theory that all the Durins are the same person to go Narvi->Durin III/IV->The Balrog->Morgoth->Maeglin... ^_^)

Over to you, Urwen!

hS

Urwen · 04-24-2019, 06:43 AM

I am feeling generous now, so

Lalaith -> Maeglin

*No Barrow-Downs users usage allowed*

Huinesoron · 04-24-2019, 08:03 AM

Well, Lalaith > Turin > Tuor > Maeglin springs to mind, by way of the cousins passing on the road.

Hurin was around for Lalaith's childhood, right? And he visited Gondolin and would have met Maeglin. So can I just have Lalaith > Hurin > Maeglin?

hS

11-14-2010, 05:03 PM	#1481
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	You are correct, Andsigil! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-14-2010, 08:07 PM	#1483
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Radagast>Mouth of Sauron Then here's another solution without any of them: Radagast--Eagles--Bilbo--Frodo--Pippin--Mouth of Sauron Either way, it's Andsigil's turn now. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-14-2010, 09:00 PM	#1484
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Mouth of Sauron --> Nimrodel __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

11-15-2010, 05:30 PM	#1485
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Mouth of Sauron--Legolas--Galadriel (quite possible to use another Elf here)--Nimrodel Galadriel could be excluded if Legolas' song about Nimrodel counts as a connection, which I doubt. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-15-2010, 08:41 PM	#1486
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Your turn. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

11-15-2010, 08:58 PM	#1487
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	This is an easy one, but I can't think of anything better for the moment. Mauhur--->Deagol __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-13-2010, 05:51 PM	#1488
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Mauhur -> Grishnakh -> Pippin -> Sam -> Smeagol -> Deagol __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

12-13-2010, 06:37 PM	#1489
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Yup! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-13-2015, 09:31 AM	#1490
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Balan -> Lotho __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-13-2015, 02:21 PM	#1491
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Yay for revival! Balan (Beor) -- Finrod -- Galadriel -- Frodo -- Lotho __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

11-18-2015, 03:33 PM	#1492
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Only took me five years... That's it! The thread is yours! __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

11-18-2015, 06:16 PM	#1493
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,517	Oh man... That "Yup" post of mine - I was only two months dead when I made it! That's scary! 2010 can't be that long ago! Earwen -- Aratan __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

12-07-2015, 05:35 AM	#1494
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Earwen - Galadriel - Elrond - Isildur - Aratan? Maybe it could go directly from Elrond to Aratan and skip Isildur. At some point I suppose Elrond could have met Isildur's son, but I don't know if there's any actual proof of such a meeting. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

12-07-2015, 09:39 AM	#1496
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Ingwë to Uglúk __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

12-11-2015, 07:15 PM	#1497
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	<bump> __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

02-18-2016, 04:39 AM	#1499
Andsigil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: The Deepest Forges of Ered Luin Posts: 733	Correct! Your turn. __________________ Even as fog continues to lie in the valleys, so does ancient sin cling to the low places, the depression in the world consciousness.

02-18-2016, 01:01 PM	#1501
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Well, let me take a bite, as I know the possible link Fingolfin - Morgoth - Sauron - Ar-Pharazon - Tar-Miriel Dat gud enuf, siree? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

02-19-2016, 04:35 AM	#1503
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	But then it becomes more than six degrees. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

02-20-2016, 03:26 AM	#1504
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	What about Fingolfin - Fingon - Gil-galad - Elendil - Amandil - Tar-Miriel? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

02-20-2016, 11:47 AM	#1505
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I thought about it, but it is never implied that Gil-Galad and Elendil met. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

02-22-2016, 07:45 AM	#1508
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Well then, how about I steal one of your links? Fingolfin - Elwing __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-11-2019, 12:37 PM	#1511
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Correct. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-24-2019, 06:04 AM	#1512
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,971	Since Urwen bumped this up a couple of weeks ago, how about I give a puzzle? Narvi -> Maeglin (just for you, Urwen!). I can do this in 6 (assuming that means '6 names total', including both ends) several ways, and 5 by at least two slightly cheeky routes... oh, and 3 by a very cheeky route. No Sauron, Gandalf, or Saruman required. (If you include a non-obvious link, it'd be nice to get an explanation for it - that's how we learn random trivia, after all!) hS

04-24-2019, 06:14 AM	#1513
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Narvi>Celebrimbor>Curufin>Celegorm>Aredhel>Maeglin __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-24-2019, 06:25 AM	#1515
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I'll try for the shorter route Narvi>Celebrimbor>Turgon>Aredhel>Maeglin OR Narvi>Celebrimbor>Turgon>Idril>Maeglin __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-24-2019, 06:27 AM	#1516
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,971	What's your link from Celebrimbor to Turgon, other than them being... some sort of cousins? hS

04-24-2019, 06:31 AM	#1517
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	According to one version of legendarium, Celebrimbor lived in Gondolin for a time, where he made the early prototype of the stone known as Elessar for Turgon. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-24-2019, 06:43 AM	#1519
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	I am feeling generous now, so Lalaith -> Maeglin No Barrow-Downs users usage allowed __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

04-24-2019, 08:03 AM	#1520
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,971	Well, Lalaith > Turin > Tuor > Maeglin springs to mind, by way of the cousins passing on the road. Hurin was around for Lalaith's childhood, right? And he visited Gondolin and would have met Maeglin. So can I just have Lalaith > Hurin > Maeglin? hS