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Inziladun · 02-06-2016, 01:45 PM

When referring to 'trees', maybe Treebeard was speaking of literal trees. They do seem to have an awareness, even if they aren't Ents, or Huorns.

I recall the tree that was encountered by Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli at the edge of Fangorn, that appeared to appreciate the fire they'd lit.

Also, the Old Forest trees were clearly sentient, obeying the orders of the Willow to direct Frodo and Co. to the Withywindle.

As for the 'nameless things', who knows? They could be unique creatures that had their own part to play, but weren't going to interfere with the Plan of the Elves being the Eldest of the Children of Ilúvatar (as the Dwarves' awakening before the Elves would have).

Morthoron · 02-06-2016, 02:29 PM

Nameless things? Why, those were the sandworms Peter Jackson imported from Arrakis. They were kept nameless so as not to impede the Bene Gesserit's secret Missionaria Protectiva in Middle-earth. Aragorn was the Kwisatz Haderach, the result of several generations of the successful Dunedain breeding program.

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Inziladun Gruesome Spectre Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Heaven's doorstep Posts: 8,039	When referring to 'trees', maybe Treebeard was speaking of literal trees. They do seem to have an awareness, even if they aren't Ents, or Huorns. I recall the tree that was encountered by Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli at the edge of Fangorn, that appeared to appreciate the fire they'd lit. Also, the Old Forest trees were clearly sentient, obeying the orders of the Willow to direct Frodo and Co. to the Withywindle. As for the 'nameless things', who knows? They could be unique creatures that had their own part to play, but weren't going to interfere with the Plan of the Elves being the Eldest of the Children of Ilúvatar (as the Dwarves' awakening before the Elves would have). __________________ Music alone proves the existence of God.

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Morthoron Curmudgeonly Wordwraith Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ensconced in curmudgeonly pursuits Posts: 2,515	Nameless things? Why, those were the sandworms Peter Jackson imported from Arrakis. They were kept nameless so as not to impede the Bene Gesserit's secret Missionaria Protectiva in Middle-earth. Aragorn was the Kwisatz Haderach, the result of several generations of the successful Dunedain breeding program. __________________ And your little sister's immaculate virginity wings away on the bony shoulders of a young horse named George who stole surreptitiously into her geography revision.