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Aganzir · 09-20-2015, 09:18 AM

Weirdly quiet. Yeah I know we're just 11 but still, the day is half gone.

Speaking of numbers...

3 wolves and 8 villagers. If we lynch two ordos, we're basically toast (would you like a slice of ham to go with that?) - 3-4 at the beginning of day 3. Looks rather bleak to me.

Aganzir · 09-20-2015, 09:27 AM

...Unless there's a secret role to help us. But that's not very likely is it?

Anyway I think sally, Inzil and Rikae are the wolves because they are the only ones whose occupation isn't even remotely related to food. And if it keeps being this quiet I will vote accordingly. (Heck, I might anyway. It's not exactly as if we have anything to go on.)

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 09-20-2015, 10:06 AM

Well, it seems like that loudmouth Aganzir is trying to boss the village around as usual! Wolvish behaviour if you ask me!

Aganzir · 09-20-2015, 10:13 AM

You know I kind of want to joke about being a wolf, or being wolves with you, but considering how important lynching a wolf is, and that there's no way (beside death) to confirm anybody's role... It just doesn't feel worth it!

So I'll be serious. Dead serious.

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 09-20-2015, 10:41 AM

I have some thoughts about how wolves might present themselves in a game like this, but I'm not gonna get into that before we can at least get a couple of jokey first posts! In any case, we have almost no tools to work with. Well, other than double-lynches or sacrifical lambs. You're the butcher though, Agan. What do you make of our situation?

Aganzir · 09-20-2015, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

You're the butcher though, Agan. What do you make of our situation?

Food.

Aganzir · 09-20-2015, 11:01 AM

Okay I do have some more thoughts, but they can be summed up with "the odds are against us and we're all gonna die." Anyway I'm off to a party, will be back later to vote.

Rikae · 09-20-2015, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

3 wolves and 8 villagers. If we lynch two ordos, we're basically toast (would you like a slice of ham to go with that?) - 3-4 at the beginning of day 3. Looks rather bleak to me.

That's true, but at least our odds of hitting a wolf by pure luck are decent, and after getting one, we'll have something to go on.

I'm actually looking forward to a game based on reasoning and analysis instead of gifted strategy. It's going to be a challenge, but I like a challenge.

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Originally Posted by Agan

Anyway I think sally, Inzil and Rikae are the wolves because they are the only ones whose occupation isn't even remotely related to food.

Well, of course the one covered in blood couldn't possibly be responsible for gnawing off someone's head. That would just be too obvious, right?

Eomer of the Rohirrim · 09-20-2015, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

a game based on reasoning and analysis

How's that for optimism?

Well, starting from the hypothesis that wolves, more than ordos, would be hyped for the game and unable to refrain from posting ASAP, I guess I've already got my three wolves in the bag.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-20-2015, 02:20 PM

Can't a fellow drink in peace?

Answer: apparently can't. Aside from agreeing about the very bleak state of this village's chances, there isn't that much to say. I simply hope we are lucky enough to get a Wolf on Day 1... then again, by pure maths, there is statistically also higher chance of hitting a Wolf... but I bet the WWs are going to do their worst to try to prevent it. So for future Days, looking at who voted how is gonna be crucial. Also, I therefore suggest making the votes as "orderly" as possible - meaning try to avoid spreading them out, so the WWs are actually forced to vote to save their lynchmates... that is, if their lynchmates are among the candidates in the first place. But yeah. I mean, gotta start at least from something, right.

Not that I (and I don't expect many of the Europeans, either) am going to be around for the DL (no chance, please). But anyway... that will be the stuff.

EDIT: x-ed with Lommy

A Little Green · 09-20-2015, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Eomer

Well, starting from the hypothesis that wolves, more than ordos, would be hyped for the game and unable to refrain from posting ASAP, I guess I've already got my three wolves in the bag.

What, including yourself?

Legate, what are lynchmates?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-20-2015, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by A Little Green

Legate, what are lynchmates?

Meaning: their packmates who are about to be lynched. (The second use of that term should probably have been "packmates" by then.) Basically what I meant: WWs will be forced to vote to save their packmates, if those packmates are in the danger of getting lynched, more so than in a bigger village, because they actually are also hard-pressed to win as soon as possible. That.

A Little Green · 09-20-2015, 02:30 PM

I'd prefer to vote within an hour - ridiculous, I know, but I blame the timezone. I'd be tempted to vote for a no-show, simply because a game like this is especially easy for quiet, non-committal wolves to sail through while loudmouths promptly kill each other. Unfortunately, voting for someone for "not being present" would hardly be fair if you vote seven hours before deadline..

EDIT: x-ed with Legate

A Little Green · 09-20-2015, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate

Meaning: their packmates who are about to be lynched. (The second use of that term should probably have been "packmates" by then.) Basically what I meant: WWs will be forced to vote to save their packmates, if those packmates are in the danger of getting lynched, more so than in a bigger village, because they actually are also hard-pressed to win as soon as possible. That.

I'm not sure I'm following you here. Of course the village is small, but on the other hand - the wolf-villager ratio is fairly good for them, and with no gifteds to mess things up for them, I'd say our wolves are a lot less in a hurry than the average pack.

Rikae · 09-20-2015, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Also, I therefore suggest making the votes as "orderly" as possible - meaning try to avoid spreading them out, so the WWs are actually forced to vote to save their lynchmates... that is, if their lynchmates are among the candidates in the first place.

In a village this small, trying not to spread out the votes very nearly translates to "lynch the first person who gets a vote", and of course, wolves can vote early with confidence that it isn't someone on their own side, and we can't.

All we have is talk, so we need to maximize the talk. The more debate, the better the trail.

EDIT: Whoa, X'd with Kath's vote onward.

Thinlómien · 09-20-2015, 02:18 PM

Well seeing as Aganzir has already channeled my inner pessimist, I'm trying to tone it down. But seriously the odds are not in our favour. (Hehehe I just realised that could be considered a pun.

)

There may be a secret role or twist to help us but we shouldn't count on that. Rather, we should just keep our wits around and try or best and if we lose, pull the "the odds were against us from the start" card.

Or that's at least how I'm trying to do it. But I'm really hoping I don't need to go on my "I hate random votes on Day1" crusade in this game.

Okay... pessimism, pessimism, pessimism... what else is in my brain? Well: practical matters. The DL is 7am Finnish time, so I'll be voting ridiculously early every day, starting toDay.

Speaking of which, the current amount of data doesn't look very encouraging. Where is everyone?

edit: xed with Eomer, yay!

09-20-2015, 09:18 AM	#1
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Weirdly quiet. Yeah I know we're just 11 but still, the day is half gone. Speaking of numbers... 3 wolves and 8 villagers. If we lynch two ordos, we're basically toast (would you like a slice of ham to go with that?) - 3-4 at the beginning of day 3. Looks rather bleak to me. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

09-20-2015, 09:27 AM	#2
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	...Unless there's a secret role to help us. But that's not very likely is it? Anyway I think sally, Inzil and Rikae are the wolves because they are the only ones whose occupation isn't even remotely related to food. And if it keeps being this quiet I will vote accordingly. (Heck, I might anyway. It's not exactly as if we have anything to go on.) __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

09-20-2015, 10:06 AM	#3
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	Well, it seems like that loudmouth Aganzir is trying to boss the village around as usual! Wolvish behaviour if you ask me! __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

09-20-2015, 10:13 AM	#4
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	You know I kind of want to joke about being a wolf, or being wolves with you, but considering how important lynching a wolf is, and that there's no way (beside death) to confirm anybody's role... It just doesn't feel worth it! So I'll be serious. Dead serious. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

09-20-2015, 10:41 AM	#5
Eomer of the Rohirrim Auspicious Wraith Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 4,859	I have some thoughts about how wolves might present themselves in a game like this, but I'm not gonna get into that before we can at least get a couple of jokey first posts! In any case, we have almost no tools to work with. Well, other than double-lynches or sacrifical lambs. You're the butcher though, Agan. What do you make of our situation? __________________ Los Ingobernables de Harlond

09-20-2015, 11:01 AM	#7
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	Okay I do have some more thoughts, but they can be summed up with "the odds are against us and we're all gonna die." Anyway I'm off to a party, will be back later to vote. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

09-20-2015, 02:20 PM	#10
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Can't a fellow drink in peace? Answer: apparently can't. Aside from agreeing about the very bleak state of this village's chances, there isn't that much to say. I simply hope we are lucky enough to get a Wolf on Day 1... then again, by pure maths, there is statistically also higher chance of hitting a Wolf... but I bet the WWs are going to do their worst to try to prevent it. So for future Days, looking at who voted how is gonna be crucial. Also, I therefore suggest making the votes as "orderly" as possible - meaning try to avoid spreading them out, so the WWs are actually forced to vote to save their lynchmates... that is, if their lynchmates are among the candidates in the first place. But yeah. I mean, gotta start at least from something, right. Not that I (and I don't expect many of the Europeans, either) am going to be around for the DL (no chance, please). But anyway... that will be the stuff. EDIT: x-ed with Lommy __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories Last edited by Legate of Amon Lanc; 09-20-2015 at 02:24 PM.

09-20-2015, 02:30 PM	#13
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	I'd prefer to vote within an hour - ridiculous, I know, but I blame the timezone. I'd be tempted to vote for a no-show, simply because a game like this is especially easy for quiet, non-committal wolves to sail through while loudmouths promptly kill each other. Unfortunately, voting for someone for "not being present" would hardly be fair if you vote seven hours before deadline.. EDIT: x-ed with Legate __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

09-20-2015, 02:18 PM	#16
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Well seeing as Aganzir has already channeled my inner pessimist, I'm trying to tone it down. But seriously the odds are not in our favour. (Hehehe I just realised that could be considered a pun. ) There may be a secret role or twist to help us but we shouldn't count on that. Rather, we should just keep our wits around and try or best and if we lose, pull the "the odds were against us from the start" card. Or that's at least how I'm trying to do it. But I'm really hoping I don't need to go on my "I hate random votes on Day1" crusade in this game. Okay... pessimism, pessimism, pessimism... what else is in my brain? Well: practical matters. The DL is 7am Finnish time, so I'll be voting ridiculously early every day, starting toDay. Speaking of which, the current amount of data doesn't look very encouraging. Where is everyone? edit: xed with Eomer, yay! __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris Last edited by Thinlómien; 09-20-2015 at 02:22 PM.