Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Loslote

If we have the word of a majority of the thread that they will focus attention on another known wolf instead of ours, we will consider it.

I'm willing to give my word. I won't promise not to empower votes against them if that's the only option available to an honest villager, but I can and will make it my priority to focus on the Fang to bring them down first.

I'm not asking you to reveal them if they're still hidden, but I'd like to know more about the potential build of the second best pack, the more effectively to kill them.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Is this what you are thinking:

If:
morm is a wolf give vote to Form or McCaber
Form is a wolf give vote to morm or Lommy
Kath is a wolf give vote to Eomer or Mith
Mith is a wolf give vote to Kath or Shasta
McCaber is a wolf give vote to Boro
No dreams on this list as wolf give vote to Sally

That spreads it out and I'm willing to give Boro the single vote as well as it's known that he's at least not a wolf though his motivations are unclear.

Whether they're in the same pack or not, it makes me laugh that this chart cross-empowers Tweedlemorm and Tweedleform.

[Rikae]

So (no wolves need to answer this) somebody was listing the likelihood of various wolf-pairings - what was there about the orm brothers?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

So (no wolves need to answer this) somebody was listing the likelihood of various wolf-pairings - what was there about the orm brothers?

My last version is here. Granted it's based on general impressions rather than in-depth analysis, and while nothing suggests the Orms can't be wolves together, I'll take my hat off to morm if he's in the Grip pack.

[Aganzir]

I wonder how Lommy is going to make it to my place at 9 if she's still at the office playing werewolf.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Conclusion: Dreamed the phantom, Firefoot, Lottie, Mac, Lommy, Eomer and Nilp. Last dream either Boro or Agan. I really wish I knew...

Not bad, Lommy. Not bad at all.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'm willing to give my word. I won't promise not to empower votes against them if that's the only option available to an honest villager, but I can and will make it my priority to focus on the Fang to bring them down first.

Will this deal still be available if we wait until closer to the deadline (or, well, closer to when we start voting) to see if our packmate is in trouble toDay?

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Will this deal still be available if we wait until closer to the deadline (or, well, closer to when we start voting) to see if our packmate is in trouble toDay?

I'm going to be occupied with friends for the next hours so it's not like I'll be able to do any analysis without getting yelled at. So in that sense yes, but do remember that the Fang will try to mess it up for you as well as in the Living thread, and they will know which Tweedle is in their pack and which isn't (unless they're both Fang). And also us Europeans can't wait till very close to the deadline.

[Nogrod]

Did you notice this?

Originally Posted by Mith #744

However I have had an idea that is either bonkers or genius and I am not sure which. We know that there must be a majority of innocents in the dead thread now and that they seem to be horrifically active. I know given my vehement opposition to rigged voting day one but if we arranged a tie either of the unknowns or even go the whole hog and all just self vote then the dead can either take out a known wolf or if they don't know any leave us all to bicker another day. Too much of a risk of something going wrong?

That would be just genious!

Sadly no one seems to be noticing it...

[Aganzir]

Another option if you want to keep quiet about identities: tell us which kills were the Fang.

And if morm is responsible for the dead Europeans after his reaction to my joke got me lynched I swear to god I will end him!!

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

And if morm is responsible for the dead Europeans after his reaction to my joke got me lynched I swear to god I will end him!!

Morm do you have anything to say about this?

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Morm do you have anything to say about this?

I have plenty to say about it, I won't bore you with all the details...it would be too long and drawn out...probably like two or three sentences and I couldn't in good faith add that much to this already incredibly long thread.

[Nogrod]

Morm, do you have anything to say about this possible confession of yours?

[Rikae]

One thing: I thought Lottie's pack killed me (for obvious reasons) but also that Mac's wouldn't have (because I wouldn't have looked seerish to them), and that's why I, at least, figured they weren't in a pack together.

If they are in the same pack, they probably didn't kill me. Meaning Morm's pack (since Morm was an unlikely packmate of Mac's) did.

Now, I avoided voting Morm on my last Day, although I don't think I'd necessarily have looked seerish about it. I went after Lottie & Firefoot. I don't see anything that would have made Mith, Kath or McCaber concerned about me (unless, of course, they assumed I was a seer who'd dreamed of opposing wolf Lottie).

Any reasons for Mith, Kath or McCaber to kill Legate?

EDIT: My post 1086

Originally Posted by Rikae

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thinlómien
Rather:

If morm is innocent, give an extra vote to morm
If morm is guilty, give an extra vote to Sally
If Form is innocent, give an extra vote to Form
If Form is guilty, give an extra vote to Lommy
If Kath is innocent, give an extra vote to Kath
If Kath is guilty, give an extra vote to Eomer
If Mith is innocent, give an extra vote to Mith
If Mith is guilty, give an extra vote to Shasta
If McCaber is innocent, don't give an extra vote
If McCaber is guilty, give an extra vote to Boro
If the village is screwing up or there's something else alarming such as Boro being a wolf (we can clarify this the next Day if needs be), give an extra vote to McCaber

Well, that's tolerable, I hope it sticks.
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My post #1084 at 1:51

Originally Posted by me

Now, if one of them gets lynched toDay and we manage to send a message about the other, Boro can take him out toNight.

Who here will be able to vote at DL? Obviously me, tp, and the wolves (curse them).
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[Firefoot]

I'll be here at deadline. I'm not sure about Lottie's proposed deal though... weighing the likelihood of one pack taking out the other with there just being one night kill. On the other hand, if the unknown wolf is your packmate I would be willing to deal.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Morm

morm is a wolf give vote to Form or McCaber
Form is a wolf give vote to morm or Lommy
Kath is a wolf give vote to Eomer or Mith
Mith is a wolf give vote to Kath or Shasta
McCaber is a wolf give vote to Boro
No dreams on this list as wolf give vote to Sally

Ha ha, I love it, especially that he's a Wolf suggesting this. Way to go Mith for forcing the conversation toward the Living!

Originally Posted by Mith

We know that there must be a majority of innocents in the dead thread now and that they seem to be horrifically active. I know given my vehement opposition to rigged voting day one but if we arranged a tie either of the unknowns or even go the whole hog and all just self vote then the dead can either take out a known wolf or if they don't know any leave us all to bicker another day. Too much of a risk of something going wrong?

Yes!!!! This is EXACTLY the sort of thing I had in mind. Mith- you have become Phantom!

Anyway, it's quite easy to get caught up on the Living thread, but the Dead thread is another matter.

*goes to read*

[the phantom]

I'm trying to get caught up but I can't move beyond Agan's post where Bilbo becomes Cage. I'm just watching it over and over.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Yes!!!! This is EXACTLY the sort of thing I had in mind. Mith- you have become Phantom!

Make sure she hears that. Interesting, given that she was most anti-Phantom on first Day. You should thank her!

Anyway, as for myself and DL, I won't really be here for the DL (no way), but I will try to vote when there is at least something to start with. For instance, when someone votes for one of our Wolves, or somesuch. Or, of course, if someone votes for a Wolf and in such a way that we can send a message that way as well. Of course, I don't want to be too greedy.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Make sure she hears that. Interesting, given that she was most anti-Phantom on first Day. You should thank her!

Anyway, as for myself and DL, I won't really be here for the DL (no way), but I will try to vote when there is at least something to start with. For instance, when someone votes for one of our Wolves, or somesuch. Or, of course, if someone votes for a Wolf and in such a way that we can send a message that way as well. Of course, I don't want to be too greedy.

I'll try to do the same.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Anyway, as for myself and DL, I won't really be here for the DL (no way), but I will try to vote when there is at least something to start with. For instance, when someone votes for one of our Wolves, or somesuch. Or, of course, if someone votes for a Wolf and in such a way that we can send a message that way as well. Of course, I don't want to be too greedy.

Fits me as well.

Lot to do tomorrow so no staying awake up to 5am. Sorry.