Ten Year Anniversary Game: Living Thread

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Why Nilp, though? Anything about his votes or interactions, or just a general sense of discomfort that he's survived this long?

As a fellow Warg-enthusiast, and my cousin, I am uneasy about him being the 'shot in the dark.'

The same goes for me. I'm honestly concerned about both the vote for Form and the vote for Nilp. They seem rather baseless to me. I know Kath can't return to explain, but could someone enlighten me on why Nilp is perhaps so sinister?

[Thinlómien]

Well, Nerwen gave us the list of options.

Out of those, morm and Form seem innocent to me.

Kath and Mith have posted too little to judge anything by.

That leaves McCaber, who is a tiny bit fishy. Hard to explain why, but something about him strikes me as not genuine, and it's for example interesting how he got stuck on talking about me and Agan, or how toDay he decided to focus on Lalaith (not his pack's choice so safe ground for analyzing?)

The other person left is Nilp. He just seems too nice and innocent to actually be nice and innocent? I mean, that's how he's wolfed his way through a game before.

Now that I started typing I actually made McCaber sound more suspicious to myself. I may vote him after all.

(Yeah, not going sleep, got stuck discussing the Game of Thrones writers' questionable adaptational choices on tumblr...)


edit: xed with Sally's latter

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm leaning toward voting Form myself. But I'll wait around to see if anyone else offers some bright ideas.

[Thinlómien]

Okay, if you guys don't want to lynch Nilp, I think

++McCaber

is a better option than Form.

In any case, remember that a tie means no lynch, and the dead may still provide an extra vote somewhere. Be careful.

[satansaloser2005]

Fishy
Morm - For general uneasiness and the (I believe false) rivalry between himself and Wolflote
Mith - I feel an innocent Mith would be less condescending and more willing to listen to others' ideas, but as it is, she immediately refused to take part in the Day 1 discussion of votes and has reacted to various posts (my reveal, for instance) in a way that makes it seem like she's not actually invested in the village's best interest
Kath - For voting Form both Day 1 and toDay when, at least toDay, there were better options
Shasta - For no reason other than I have no idea what he is and therefore he must be evil

Confused
Boro - My prince says he has an uncomfortable tickle, and I'm willing to believe he killed Lal, but it's a matter of whether the itch is his gift or his fur (a decision I can't make toDay)
Nilp - The general read is innocent, but also oddly blank, as if there's not much invested for him in this game (hence leaning innocent, as I feel a Wolfaurion would play more high stakes and less silliness)
Eomer - Holding off toDay at Nerwen's request, and don't really have a read anyway
Lommy - She feels innocent and guilty to me in shifts, which means I need to take time to read through her posts again and make up my flipping mind
Form - He clearly deserves a closer read as well, but I find him rather innocent at the moment

Innocent
McCaber - As previously stated, he feels quite innocent to me (perhaps because there's no cobble for him to McCobbler with this game )
Nerwen - Because reasons
Sally - Because reasons


x'd like a way bunch or something

[satansaloser2005]

I also have to leave in about ten minutes. I *might* be able to check the Downs, but it's unlikely. I'll try to sneak in a vote, at the least (even if it ends up being a vote purely for the purposes of triggering the dead's information).


x'd with Form

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Lommy called me 'kawaii'. I don't know how to respond to that.

Anyway, do we still have enough votes to lynch me? If some people *cough* are being audacious, I might as well be, even though I'm a helpless and lonely innocent party member.

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Lommy called me 'kawaii'. I don't know how to respond to that.

Anyway, do we still have enough votes to lynch me? If some people *cough* are being audacious, I might as well be, even though I'm a helpless and lonely innocent party member.

Are we SURE this game doesn't have a Cobbler? Because at this stage in the game, that's the attitude I'd expect of a Cobbler protecting Wolves.


Since we don't (right? We don't?)--I don't know what to make of this except a wolf trying to plea-bargain his way out. Perhaps Nilp's pack can survive a loss?

Or he's an ordo... I'll grant he feels less innocent to me now, but I'd still rather lynch Eomer or--if we want to go Lommy-style and stab in the dark, I'd rather go McCaber than Nilp. At least Nilp's entertaining.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I feel like Bilbo among the Trolls just now. I can at least hope that the wolves are (or wolf is) being befuddled by all this - and it might even give us a day extra with our superiors.

++NILPAURION FELAGUND

I'd apologise, cuz, but I know it's what you'd want. Also, this is how I signed up in the admin thread.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh, goodness gracious.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

++Nilp

Best I have to go on, at the moment (although I confess his current attitude is making me second guess myself.)

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

The same goes for me. I'm honestly concerned about both the vote for Form and the vote for Nilp. They seem rather baseless to me. I know Kath can't return to explain, but could someone enlighten me on why Nilp is perhaps so sinister?

While it's been great to be back on the Downs in general, it's been very exciting to be back in werewolf. With the changes in life since my WW prime I have less time to do deep analysis. With that said I have read every word at least once. I think through the years I've developed a better sense of people and how to read them. So I may not do the analysis in writing but rather the body of work is stored in my mind. It comes in general feelings and impressions. Hey I was right about Mac on Day 1! It's certainly not fool proof but it's all I have time to offer.

With that said both Nilp and Eomer haven't been sitting right for some time now. Form to a lesser degree but much more so i the last few posts. I will likely vote Nilp.

[Thinlómien]

Form, Nerwen asked us not to vote Eomer toDay. If you trust her, you should vote either Nilp, McCaber, Morm, Kath, Mith or yourself.

Good night, folks, it's 3.15 am in Finland!

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Form, Nerwen asked us not to vote Eomer toDay. If you trust her, you should vote either Nilp, McCaber, Morm, Kath, Mith or yourself.

Good night, folks, it's 3.15 am in Finland!

I saw that she didn't put him on her list, but unless I missed something (possible), she had no reason beyond this post:

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Of course. They're cute. Lommy is a dear little penguin, Eomer is a fluffy-widdle puppy warg, and sure you don't expect me to lynch my king?
I would have left Nilp off, too, save for his sorely-deluded views on koalas.

...Er, I mean, no, I can't tell you. The riddle-message I was sent indicates a certain course of action, but that's as much as I say just now.

Edit:x'd with Eomer.

Granted, Nerwen could be in possession of information she hasn't revealed, but my understanding was that she had been given the names of two Wolves--not the roles of everyone in the village. And while I'm willing to assume that the reception of this message means she's an innocent, I don't see how it indicates that her guesses are necessarily better than the rest of ours--so I continue to think Eomer suspicious.

That said, if the village prefers to follow the lead of a known innocent, I understand that motivation--I just don't see how it removes a name completely from contention.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

All right, Sally, that seems pretty helpful.

Form, Nerwen wasn't the special role. Boro is. Think about it. Either your act is truly stupendous, or you must be innocent.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

On Nilp, Continued


#552 - Nilp's third list.

Originally Posted by Nilp

Swarm of Killer Beers [sic]

Firefoot - Her death analysis as sharp (way too sharp even, according to Lottie), but in the absence of concrete role/alignment knowledge of the Dead, an analysis of why someone would be killed as a possible Seer seems a useful tool.
Shastanis Althreduin - Werewolf Psychic strikes again? His narrow laser-like focus on certain topics is worrying, but is comprehensive in them.
McCaber - Too focused on the Agan/Lommy war; provided a halfhearted Rune death analysis (although I do understand the halfheartedness. This game is driving me insane.)
Eomer of the Rohirrim - Makes logical arguments against the Agan/Lommy war being suspicious. Is part of the Nogawagon (TM A Little Green). Makes a comment about how laser-like focus on a topic is used to camouflage Wolvish behaviour, but is laser-like in his posts as well (the war and Legate's case against Greenie). Hm?

Firefoot being there is a given after the events of the previous several hours. He also mentions being suspicious of Eomer, McCaber, and myself (I'm assuming, here, that that's what being in that category means) but I'm having trouble figuring out what the reasons are - as far as I can tell, he's suspicious of McCaber and I for being narrowly focused, and Eomer for slight hypocrisy?

#636 - vote analysis post. While there's not a lot regarding suspicions from Nilp here, he does offhandedly mention -

Originally Posted by Nilp

Also, for what it's worth, this is twice that Eomer's been among the last voters for a lethal bandwaggon.

It bothers me a bit that Nilp won't actually come out and say that he's suspicious of Eomer. This feels more like he's throwing the idea out to see if anyone will bite.


Summary - Almost everything Nilp has said thus far has been about the mechanics of the game (roles, the dead thread, plans for getting information, et cetera). I'm not sure that he's suspicious of anyone (except perhaps Eomer), and I do think it's worth noting that Nilp was on both the Nog and Agan wagons just as much as Eomer was, first day self-vote notwithstanding. Or at least I couldn't find anyone Nilp suspected on Day 1 more than Nog.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Good posts, Shasta, and with McCaber and now Form (for different reasons) slipping down my suspicion list, I have no hesitation in thinking about lynching Nilp today.

Kath and Mith are obviously very hard to read.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

It bothers me a bit that Nilp won't actually come out and say that he's suspicious of Eomer. This feels more like he's throwing the idea out to see if anyone will bite.

I can't believe you missed the bigger idea I was throwing out--that based on the DAY 2 vote, I look suspicious.

Now, to see if anyone will bite on that.

Originally Posted by Formendacil

Are we SURE this game doesn't have a Cobbler? Because at this stage in the game, that's the attitude I'd expect of a Cobbler protecting Wolves.

Well... if you're trying to catch Wolves, you're barking up the wrong tree by lynching me, but I assure you you're not lynching a Gifted.

But seriously, normally I'd refute any accusation of me with information. I have very little right now (and even that incriminates me).

Worst case scenario, 6 wolves + 6 villagers now, you lynch me, we lose.

Mid case scenario, the Gifted get to do Gifted things for one more NIGHT.

Best case scenario... well, if you lynch me, the party is not winning the game toDAY. Maybe toNIGHT, though?

_____

Also, DEAD PEOPLE, I echo the other's agreement and would ask you to follow Lommy-chan's list. (Just don't mind the name 'Lottie' on the second line.)

[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

All right, Sally, that seems pretty helpful.

Form, Nerwen wasn't the special role. Boro is. Think about it. Either your act is truly stupendous, or you must be innocent.

I haven't said Nerwen is the special role. As far as I know, though, Boro's revelation did not disprove that she'd received the PMs she says she received. What is it I am missing here?

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Are you guys honestly not getting what Nerwen was telling us today?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

On Nilp

#122 - Nilp's first post of the game that references him being suspicious of anyone, calling out Mac for

Originally Posted by Nilp

pooh-poohing (is that a word? It is now!) phantom's plan of transferring information from the Dead to the Living without suggesting an alternative or even a modification to the original.

It's interesting to me that Mac is the first person Nilp elects to go after, given what we (think we) know about Mac now. It's hard to say - I certainly wouldn't put it past Nilp to suspect his packmate, but the feel of the suspicion here (based as it is on information) feels genuine. Of course, we have two wolfpacks, so it being a genuine suspicion doesn't in and of itself absolve Nilp of wolfery... bah. Moving on.

#210 - Nilp's first list. There's a bit of a sameness to this list, honestly, between people he's neutral (?) on and people he has no read on. The only definitive people he might suspect here, as far as I can tell, are -

Originally Posted by Nilp

Swarm of killer beers [sic]

Aganzir
Thinlómien - The Finnish friends' little spat... well, they are friends, and I generally have a shorter fuse when it comes to my friends. But I echo others' sentiment that it looks Wolf-on-Wolf. (Remember, 'Wolf-on-Wolf' in this village doesn't necessarily mean 'artificially contrived'. Two Packs!) I trust Lommy more because list.
Nogrod - Oh, man... I initially had him in the previous section (pulling out the Voltaire quote even), but... his vehement argument against some form of clue-giving between the living and the Dead is troubling. Post-Mandos game trauma?

Agan and Lommy had been talked about for most of the latter part of the day, as I recall. As far as Nog goes, I think this might be a teensy bit of misrepresentation. Nog surely wasn't shy about pointing out the possible pitfalls of a plan (that's a lot of p's) to derive information from the dead thread, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to say he was arguing against doing it entirely.


Day 2:

#255 - Nilp is less certain that Nog was evil (possibly just stubborn). Also, Agan might exonerated on the grounds that

Originally Posted by Nilp

Anyway, surely, no one can be that blatantly evil, especially in a game like this, where losing one of the Pack would put the rest under immense pressure to catch an opposing Baddie. Probably.

#377 - Nilp's second list. The only person he's suspicious of is Agan. Again, Agan was pretty much the lynch target du jour all day long - Nilp does have this to say regarding his own reason for voting her, however;

Originally Posted by Nilp

Aganzir - I have an evil(!) idea drafted called 'Agan as test case' where knowledge of her role and Nogrod would help clear up plenty of confusion regarding yesterDAY's vote. Since she remains fairly suspicious, I'd not mind going through with this plan. I'd most likely vote for her toDAY

Still, I find it a tad strange how seemingly detached he is.



I'll cut this short and post it so people can start reading - it's only 2 hours till deadline and people have probably been posting while I've been doing this, so I'll need to read that, too...