Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I think we should check Mac. It will tell us something both about Nerwen and Rikae's "dreams".

I can tell you all about my dreams right now: I never had any.

Nerwen will most likely join us soon. If she's bluffing, she might just tell us so (although after Lottie's confession I think it's unlikely).

I think, for now, we can operate under the assumption that Mac is a wolf.

[Rikae]

From looking (albeit drunkenly) at Mac last night I had the impression Nilp was a possible packmate of his.

Not that it matters much, but I'd prefer to give our vote to Shasta for that reason.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

From looking (albeit drunkenly) at Mac last night I had the impression Nilp was a possible packmate of his.

Not that it matters much, but I'd prefer to give our vote to Shasta for that reason.

Me too, I don't like Nilp.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

From looking (albeit drunkenly) at Mac last night I had the impression Nilp was a possible packmate of his.

Not that it matters much, but I'd prefer to give our vote to Shasta for that reason.

The reason (or the way it was achieved) itself might not be "fair enough" but it might be fair enough as a guideline for our vote.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

The reason (or the way it was achieved) itself might not be "fair enough" but it might be fair enough as a guideline for our vote.

Not sure what you mean here.

One thing we should be on guard against, though, is a tying our vote. That's one way the wolves could prevent our message about Greenie going through (and keep the village thinking Legate was the seer... maybe even to the point of casting doubt on a real seer reveal down the line).

There's going to be at least one probable-wolf around at deadline. Let's not give him room to mess things up for us.

[the phantom]

I was going to just follow Green and vote Shasta, but give me a minute to look at the options...

[the phantom]

Okay-

If Boro is the Seer we want the vote to go to Shasta (he dreamed him innocent).

If Firefoot is the Seer we want the vote to go to Nilp (she suspects Boro earlier perhaps reflecting on Shasta).

If Nerwen is the Seer we want the vote to go to Shasta (dreamed him innocent).

Any other factors we need to consider in this?

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Okay-

If Boro is the Seer we want the vote to go to Shasta (he dreamed him innocent).

If Firefoot is the Seer we want the vote to go to Nilp (she suspects Boro earlier perhaps reflecting on Shasta).

If Nerwen is the Seer we want the vote to go to Shasta (dreamed him innocent).

Any other factors we need to consider in this?

Oh my...

Anyway.

Let's pick Shasta then and secure all vote the same so the wolves have minimal chances of swaying the vote, right?

Btw. there are some interesting things with Firefoot... I'll try to make it shortish - and soonish (to go to bed early today).

[Nogrod]

Oh, and putting my money where my mouth is...

++ Shasta

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Not sure what you mean here.

One thing we should be on guard against, though, is a tying our vote. That's one way the wolves could prevent our message about Greenie going through (and keep the village thinking Legate was the seer... maybe even to the point of casting doubt on a real seer reveal down the line).

There's going to be at least one probable-wolf around at deadline. Let's not give him room to mess things up for us.

Good point. Because especially now, that we will be (hopefully) getting a known (hopefully?) Wolf here to the thread, regardless of how many are already present, we should start to stick a bit to some rules. Therefore, I suggest we all vote as unanimously as we can, and so for Shasta, since he already has a vote. Nogrod's argument for "being fair" is not really worth the confusion.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Not sure what you mean here.

Getting hints from someone's reactions in RL can't always be avoided. But using those reasons then publicly is another thing, and not quite fair - I mean you can't avoid getting things into your mind seeing someone's reactions but in the thread we probably should stick to the written stuff... gah... it's not worth a discussion now.

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I suppose the most likely scenario is that Lottie & her pack found me seerish.

Wait, are you saying Lottie was lying about the pack kills?

Didn't she say her pack killed Rune and Legate?

(x-post, saying the same as Legate)

[Rikae]

Well, why wouldn't she lie, especially if I was on the trail of her packmate...

However, I just noticed in #490, Lommy calls for someone to look at me for
seer-hints. Would she do that, knowing it would point back to her?
Then again, that could be exactly what she'd do... call for someone else to do it in the midst of a long post, and then distract everyone with Legate-was-the-seer talk.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Quick comment on my phone when Lommy isn't looking. Lottie's entire case on Firefoot being a wolf rests on her accurate guess of the wolf kills. But I think assuming that similar players were killed by the same pack is just the most logical conclusion, so I don't think it's actually very incriminating.

Same thinking. Like tp said, it was even likely somebody might hit it right just by pure chance. And look, Lottie also thinks I am the Seer, thus a good example how one can make even totally wrong conclusions based on "facts".

Originally Posted by the phantom

And I don't know if it's too early to mention, but it seems pointless to attempt a check of a dead Lottie tonight, right?

Are we willing to assume the same for Mac or not?

I probably would not check either of them, at least for the time being. If there was anything uncertain about Mac or whatever it was that Agan was trying to say (not sure I got it right), if you wanted to shed some light on Mac and Rikae's yesterday conversation with "I am the Seer - you are the Wolf", then I'd rather check Rikae.

Originally Posted by Rikae

I'd rather not waste our scry on Mac or Lottie. Legate seems like he has more of a trail than the rest here, so he'd be my preference.

Understandable, if you are all so uncertain about me, but I think it really should be someone else. Because I am not sure if learning my role would give anything else besides my role. Once again, as I said earlier, I think it would be the best to learn the role of someone whose role could point to other info, or other players. I think we have lot of info that's been linked to me revealed fairly well (you checked my main suspect Greenie already...), and now it should be at least clear I am not a Wolf from Lottie's party after she claimed they killed me.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I've been reading through Firefoot and just checked here...

A thought before everyone gives their votes for toDay.

Wasn't the other one (than Shasta) Nilp?

I mean Nilp is the one who proposed the idea toDay in the first place - so it would be poetically right to give the vote to him rather than Shasta.

Just saying.

I don't really care and it might be nice to give credit where credit is due, then again he didn't actively pursue it (unlike Firefoot did) and out of the two options, Shasta is really more trustworthy-looking player. I'd prefer to give the vote to him also in case the village wishes to guess something based on our preference.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Rikae

I can tell you all about my dreams right now: I never had any.

Yeah I was referring to Mac's reaction to your "reveal" and what you said earlier - he could have been so genuine because you listed his fellow as innocent.