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Old 10-10-2014, 09:52 PM   #1
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No! Not Kit! Now who’ll get us drunk?

Still, at least my little friend Jonathan is as delicious os ever! It’s good to have someone you can rely on.

*takes a bite of apple*
Wow, that's....wow. I'd forgotten about that. Beautiful.

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Ooh! Suspicion! That's the spirit!

I proclaim Mc and Mac to be wolves. Because, why not?
I would love this, honestly, though who would be the third McWolf?

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Threatening to vote people seems to be effective. Perhaps I'll vote for Sally...
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:13 PM   #2
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Wow, that's....wow. I'd forgotten about that. Beautiful.
I'm so glad someone remembers Jonathan!
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Old 10-11-2014, 12:16 AM   #3
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Well, I really hate to vote early, but I also hate to get up early on Saturdays, so...

Best I've got at this point:
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Old 10-11-2014, 01:49 AM   #4
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I'm not sure I agree with lynching the silent ones Day 1. In my experience, the people with something to play for are the ones who tend to show up early, while the lurkers tend to be ordinary innocents.

So with not a lot to go on, let's go with who saw suspicion in me, I would say unnecessarily and prematurely.

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Old 10-11-2014, 03:30 AM   #5
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Better late than never, right? Meaning, I'm here now, sorry for taking so long!

At the moment, the situation looks like this:

Inzil – Mac
Mac – Shasta
Sally – Inzil
Rikae – Inzil (2)
Cab – Legate

A couple of things caught my eye. First, there's this odd triangle of Mac-McCaber-Inziladun. Mac jokingly tells us to lynch Cab or Inzil, Cab says (half-jokingly) that Mac appears suspiciously on cue, then Inzil declares that Mac and Cab are wolves:

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First is the worst, second's the best... Third is the one with the hairy chest!

Lynch McCaber!

Unless our moddess counts, then... Lynch Inziladun!
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Chiming in suspiciously on cue, I see, eh Mac?
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Ooh! Suspicion! That's the spirit!

I proclaim Mc and Mac to be wolves. Because, why not?
I interpreted the whole exchange as banter (although I'd laugh so much if those three were actually the wolves), but then along comes Legate who says this:
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So far, of course half-in-role posts and all that starting banter is hard to judge, if I were to judge only based on tone and gut-feeling (pretty much the only things now), my bet would be in fact McCaber (strangely enough, his posts essentially stand out to me as the only ones giving any awkward vibes on first read). And okay, maybe possibly Mac. But that's just first impressions.
The interesting part is his edit, when he noticed he had cross-posted with Inzil's "Mc and Mac are wolves" -post:
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EDIT: X-posted with Inziladun. Notwithstanding joking, to name the same two people is somewhat... unsettling.
This looks - a bit panicky? Or not panicky, but he does seem to overreact a little. Possibly just innocent Legate phrasing oddly, but I also see a possibility of wolf-Legate getting worried that his harmless suspicion would lead to actual consequences. Maybe wolf-on-wolf he had thought risk-free this early and then freaked out when somebody else even jokingly suspected the same, or else just plain old not wanting to be associated with what might turn out to be a bandwagon against an innocent. Even if it was wolf-on-wolf, though, I find it unlikely that both Cab and Mac are wolves, that would be too bold for Legate, but if it's only one of them, why was Legate so concerned about Inzil suspecting "the same two people"? Gah. Too much speculation! I think there's something off in here, I'm just not sure what.

Rikae's reaction is also interesting. First she goes
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How's Cab suspicious? Or is this still just banter?
But then, in the next post,
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Although Cab's response to Mac does worry me slightly.
Which is not a strong statement at all, but jumps out at that phase of Day 1, especially right after a post where she asks what's suspicious about Cab. Subtly trying to raise doubts about Cab while keeping her hands clean? Not sure here, either, because overall Rikae seems more innocent than not.

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I guess the idea is that he suspects them in tandem- but still, why pick the one he *hadn't* been talking about? And it looks to me as if his initial "suspicion" might have just been a joke and only became serious after Legate's posts about them.
Yes, that's weird. I'm not sure what to make of Inzil, anyway, and his vote only served to confuse me more.
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Old 10-11-2014, 03:31 AM   #6
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Also - deadline in two hours, right?
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Also - deadline in two hours, right?
More or less, yeah. Hour and 50 minutes or so.
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Fast succession of votes; I guess we might want to get used to it.

In any case, I hope those who haven't posted yet at all will post; and that also on further Days there will be more discussion.

Impressions:

sally's reasoning for her vote seems innocentish to me. I am a bit uncertain about Rikae's in that respect, perhaps she just did not have time to re-formulate and did not have very strong reasons (on Day 1, understandable) but I would have liked to know if there was any more reason for voting Zil aside from what she said in her first post (which didn't sound to me like suspicion at all, that's why I'm wondering - she essentially said only "the most suspicious thing about him is that I don't find him suspicious", ergo is that the reason to vote?).

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Sorry, I was in the middle of watching Dr. No at the time. Every once in a while the urge for a classic Bond flick hits.

Inzil's vote seems more random than anything else, because there's like six posts here to choose from. I didn't see anything in Mac's post besides early banter.
This has more or less the same vibe I got earlier from McCab, which could be this sort of wishy-washy "I am pointing at someone, but never mind me, I didn't actually say anything". Of course it has reasons behind it, but . The question is also whether voting for me after that is a sign of independant mind or further dodge: a Wolf mentions person X as suspicious and then votes person Y, because he doesn't want to be associated with the lynching of person X. Cab is still in my orange zone, essentially.

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But, but... I didn't even do anything yet!

Clearly Inzil is trying to look innocent by acting like he always does (i.e., voting for me). Very suspicious.

Only Legate and Rikae are really trying to be helpful, which is nice, and even though it doesn't actually tell us anything about their alignment, I'd be willing to reward it by not voting for them.
I hope this is not the classical case of a Wolf "buddying up" or talking nicely to other people in order to get on their good side. Villainy wears many masks, none of which so dangerous as virtue. Also, I have hard time remembering whether Mac has always been so cheerful as he seems from all his posts, or whether it is a result of his merry Nightly frolicking.

Will do a quick check-up on everyone and post some short summary.

EDIT: x-ed with Greenie. Good, people appear!
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Old 10-11-2014, 05:09 AM   #9
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sally's reasoning for her vote seems innocentish to me.
Reasoning yes (even if I don't agree - Inzil can be a trolling loudmouth whatever his role), phrasing no. I feel an innocent would be more concerned about using words such as 'ordo' because for all they know, he might be a gifted and they most certainly wouldn't want to draw the wolves' attention to that.

I don't want to vote for Inzil or Legate today. Might cast a whatever sort of vote for Mac or Shasta or another submarine should they start getting votes. Or might vote for Algae or sally, which would be a bit pathetic because they're my Everyday Top Suspects(tm) but the best bet I have right now.
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Old 10-11-2014, 05:17 AM   #10
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  • Inzil – Mac
  • Mac – Shasta
  • Sally – Inzil
  • Rikae – Inzil (2)
  • Cab – Legate
I will amend this - it's most likely just Legate, Algae and me voting because Nerwen+Day1≠true love and wilwa and Shasta haven't showed up anyway.

What should we do, kiddos?
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Normálný, I'd say. I don't see overreaction there at all (other than the wide-eyedly enthusiastic "holy crap what is that" kind that is so very typical to our dear old Legate) - you would be surprised to see you crossed with somebody who said the same thing.
I see what you mean. But I also think the way he phrased his surprise (notwithstanding joking, to name the same two people is somewhat... unsettling) seemed like he was more disturbed than surprised. Like I said, I might be reading things into an innocent Legate phrasing things oddly, but it's the best lead I have at the moment.

That said -

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Reasoning yes (even if I don't agree - Inzil can be a trolling loudmouth whatever his role), phrasing no.
Agan, you hit the nail on the head here.
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