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Old 07-28-2014, 03:44 AM   #33
denethorthefirst
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Originally posted by Jallanite:
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Throughout The Lord of the Rings we see several characters tempted to control the Ring, but no-one tempted by an increased desire to submit himself or herself to Sauron’s will. Gollum, Bilbo, Frodo, Galadriel, Boromir, Saruman, and even Sam, are tempted to take the Ring for themselves, to use against Sauron, which is surely not Sauron’s will. (Unless you wish to suggest that Sauron is transmitting a suggestion to the bearer of the One Ring to reveal himself [or herself] as a trick, as Sauron expected to quickly overcome whoever now had the Ring, once that was revealed. That would be possible in some cases, but not in most.)
I NEVER wrote that the (from Sauron disconnected) One Ring somehow "tempted" or otherwise made people want to submit to Sauron - i have no idea how Jallanite came to that conclusion by reading my posts. The One Ring "manipulates" (metaphorically speaking since it has no will of its own) the desires of other people (thats why it leads to delusions of grandeur - almost like a drug induced state of euphoria caused by the enormous power thats inside the ring) - but submitting to Sauron as a slave of his, thats not a desire, nobody wishes that.
(That could also be the reason why the Ring has no power over and cannot tempt Bombadil: he has no desires - he exists in an almost zen-like state of fulfillment and the Ring has nothing to play on or to "offer" him; however that does not mean that Bombadil could master the Ring or is more powerful than the Ring.)
But: it could be possible that the "wish" (again, metaphorically speaking) of the Ring to return to its master maybe somehow affected/influenced, on a subconscious level, people that were tempted by it or wore it, and the Amon Hen Episode that Ixnay posted seems to point in that direction.

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