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Old 06-08-2014, 08:21 PM   #1
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Old 06-09-2014, 06:33 AM   #2
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So, an ordo, a ranger, a maniac, and a wolf walk into a bar...
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Old 06-09-2014, 10:35 AM   #3
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Not much to say about D4. Lommy's reveal as seer made an already quiet village even quieter. I don't know if it's because she revealed giving us two wolves or if everyone was just busy D4. I missed most of the Day because of work and sleep.

But of the little activity there was Sally did take a look at her suspect aka Kath.

Meanwhile Cop only talked about village odds and Kath said she would focus on the unknowns, but then didn't.

At this point I would say Sally is probably an innocent of some sort. I feel the same about Cop, but am not totally sure right now.

I think Kath is probably the last wolf. She hasn't been really active due to unstable internet, but when she did post it was generally noncommittal and safe. She would summarize and occasionally put in her two cents, but her quiet self was easily lost behind louder players. Which is good cover for a submarine wolf. Lottie has this to say about Kath
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So this caught my eye as being...off. I don't know Kath's playing style very well, but this post of hers came off as being at once flippant - "they are both clearly self preservation votes", "I rather feel lynching sally or Kitanna would give more information" - and, at the same time, almost grasping at suspicions. For one thing, her suspicions about Kit and Sally are flimsy at best, but she phrases them as though they're simple and clean-cut and obvious. She mentions Nog, Nerwen, and Lommy, but doesn't actually say anything about them - basically a "I thought they might be suspicious but I don't know" kind of statement that doesn't do anyone much good. I'm not at all happy with this vote, and Kath has definitely jumped to the top of my list.
Which could be part of the reason Lottie was killed. She defended Sally until the end, but she also cast suspicions on Kath.

I'm going to take another look at Cop next.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:12 PM   #4
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Well, following Lommy's instructions!

I am the Ranger.

Which is why, for me, sally or Cop has to be the final wolf. Now I had intended to look at the two of them yesterDay but lack of net made that impossible so I will be doing that over the next few hours.

Kitanna, I can't say anything to you about your suspicions of me other than that they are wrong. I'm telling you now that I will be voting for sally or Cop.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:17 PM   #5
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For reference I protected Lommy on Night 2, Boro on Night 3, Lommy again on Night 4 and last Night I was a bit limited so I protected Cop.
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Old 06-09-2014, 01:53 PM   #6
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sally:
#6 ~ Banter.

#23 ~ 'Agreed' with Lommy about the silly predictions; joked that Inzil was unsettling because he was a disembodied voice; mentioned banter-led suspicion of Kitanna.

#36 ~ Did not want to lynch the maniac. Said: I think exposing the maniac toDay would only lead to their death toNight, and I don't think that's a good idea. However, the rules state: If targeted for a Night-kill, takes a random baddie with them. Therefore if at any time the maniac was Night killed they would take a wolf down, so this is faulty reasoning.

#39 ~ States her reasoning was incorrect.

#49 ~ Explained her 'suspicion' of Inzil.

#55 ~ Wants the maniac to stay quiet to give the wolves pause with their Night kills. Argues against a known innocent role, but you can see the reasoning.

#80 ~ Presence post.

#82 ~ Replies to Nerwen's questioning her having two votes by saying it was the mean Finnish girls.

#86 ~ There is a conversation going on here between Nerwen and sally. Could just be random chat, but it could reads as Nerwen asking sally whether she should risk letting a Day 1 wolf-lynch happen.

#88 ~ Defends Kitanna, offers suspicion of Nog, Legate, Lottie and Greenie. No wolves in that list.

#93 ~ Voted Legate. Nerwen had ended up voting for Kitanna, which sally had definitely seen. That put Kitanna at 3 votes (the highest) with Kitanna and sally herself left to vote. Kitanna now obviously had to vote for Legate to save herself and put him to 3 votes. sally was always going to have to choose one or the other. Might as well choose Legate since Kitanna was defending her.

/Day 1

#153 ~ Presence post.

#156 ~ Votes Nog. There is no way around the fact that this was ultimately to save herself.

/Day 2

#177 ~ Presence post.

(Random on the way note! Lommy mentioned the interactions between Nerwen/Cop and Nerwen/sally. Sadly there is nothing clear in what she says on either. But with her later analysis on everyone, ends up saying Kath or Cop seem most suspicious from Nerwen's posts.)

#193 - Votes Nerwen. (This is after Lommy's reveal.)

/Day 3

#210 ~ Votes Boro. (After Lommy's reveal of that Day).

/Day 4

#220 (after deadline) ~ Pushing suspicion of me but says she will talk about Cop toMorrow.

#222 ~ Presence post.

/now.
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Old 06-09-2014, 02:23 PM   #7
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Cop:

#4 ~ Banter.

#10 ~ Banter.

#50 ~ Presence post.

#59 ~ Checking a nickname.

#74/83 ~ List post, ended up considering Legate 'too careful' and rather discounting everyone else.

#84 ~ Votes Legate.

#87 ~ Vote summary, points out the tie between sally and Legate. So at that moment Cop had just put Legate in line for the lynch.

#97 ~ Thinks Greenie's death looks trailless but finds that odd in a small village.

#102 ~ Couldn't see anything suspicious about the votes from the Day before, but would probably vote sally right now (no reasoning).

#105 ~ If Nerwen was a Moviephile trying to save a packmate Sally there, I'm not sure she would have been so obviously unhappy with the Sally vote. Same goes for Kitanna. Then offers further suspicion of sally, partly based on Lommy's suggestion that Greenie was thought to be the Seer and had either dreamt of guilty!sally or innocent!Boro. Said she disagreed with Boro being innocent; bold for wolf on wolf. Votes sally.

(Random note: Kit was unsure about Cop on this Day.)

#164 ~ Vote summary. Whole lot of nothing actually, based around vote patterns.

#166 ~ Continued talk of vote patterns.

#171 ~ Unsure that Kitanna is a known innocent, but does think she shouldn't be lynched just in case. (At this point Kitanna is suspicious of Cop [and Boro] so if Cop were evil would have been wary of maniac!Kitanna being lynched.

#174 ~ Arguing with Nerwen. Does not want Kitanna lynched in case of a 'bad lynch'. Thinks there may yet be a counter reveal.

#197 ~ Presence post.

#198 ~ Votes Nerwen. (This is after Lommy's reveal.)

#217 ~ Votes Boro. (This is after Lommy's reveal from that Day.)

And nowt so far toDay.
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Old 06-09-2014, 02:03 PM   #8
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Kitanna, I can't say anything to you about your suspicions of me other than that they are wrong. I'm telling you now that I will be voting for sally or Cop.
You've been pretty sparse this game due to internet issues, so I don't think it'd be in wolf Kath's best interest to attempt a false reveal with the game riding on it.

If we vote wrong today and lynch the ordo (assuming we don't lynch the ranger), we're sunk. Unless, can the mod clarify if the ranger can protect herself?

Because let's say Kath is the ranger and we lynch the ordo. If Kath can protect herself it's not like the wolf would attack me in the Night and then maniac and ranger can vote wolf on the next day.

edit: Nevermind on that rule clarification, ranger cannot self protect. Sooo, that's fun news.
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Old 06-09-2014, 02:42 PM   #9
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You've been pretty sparse this game due to internet issues, so I don't think it'd be in wolf Kath's best interest to attempt a false reveal with the game riding on it.
Then again I can see everyone revealing Ranger at this point since it is end game. That would be funny. But not funny in a "haha" way, more funny in a sad way.

Anywho...

Onto Cop...

I don't have much to add to what I already said before. My biggest thing with Cop is she never really commits to suspicions and once Lommy gave us two wolves, she didn't really have to. I had this to say on D2
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Which I then repeated D3.

Cop didn't blindly accept the reveals, which made her look good in my eyes. I found this interesting from her vote post for Nerwen.
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If it turns out to be some sort of amazing gambit from Lommy and Kitanna, and Nerwen at #196 is a peeved innocent trying to add suspense, I'll be very impressed.
I don't know why she threw this out there. Why would an innocent Nerwen be making this statement?
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Aw Lommy, you double-crossing penguin, why are you doing this to me? I thought we agreed last Night I was going to impersonate the Seer and you were going to be lynched! Meanie!
It seems...off to say such a thing. Right before that she says (even though she says it's unlikely) that Shasta could still be a seer and could counter-reveal. Also weird. If Cop is a wolf she would know Lommy was innocent and she may have tried to look helpful by questioning the reveals, maybe testing the waters to throw up a false reveal or to hint to one of her cohorts to false reveal.

It's been very hard for me to get a read on Cop. She has been extremely careful and hadn't fallen under a whole lot of suspicion from D1.

It's only been Kath and I for a few hours now, so no counter reveal to Kath's ranger claim. Someone do something like admit to wolvery or vote or anything.
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Old 06-09-2014, 03:31 PM   #10
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I have no idea what to do.

Gut says sally. Which makes me feel like it's probably Cop!
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