what happen if numenor didnt rebel against the valar?

[Faramir Jones]

Originally Posted by tom the eldest

and its worth noting that ar-pharazon ,in his childhood,was friendly to the elves but was forced to folow his father beliefs.

Are you sure about that, tom? What I've read of him indicates that he was just as bad an elf and Valar hater as his father and grandfather.

Perhaps I've missed out something somewhere. Do you have the reference handy?

[tom the eldest]

Originally Posted by Faramir Jones

Are you sure about that, tom? What I've read of him indicates that he was just as bad an elf and Valar hater as his father and grandfather.

Perhaps I've missed out something somewhere. Do you have the reference handy?

I just read in the tolkien gateway that he and amandil were friends.trough amandil,ar-pharazon maybe originally friendly to elves,but he then follow his father footsteps and become on of the kings men