Will The Hobbit do damage to the books? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

littlemanpoet · 04-19-2014, 08:05 PM

Maybe this is not harsh enough, but after viewing Hobbit 2 by PJ, my sense was "hyper Baroque". Plastered thick. So dense with extra stuff, none of it needed, that you can barely see the architectural design underneath. A pity, since the architecture is of such high quality.

Morthoron · 04-20-2014, 07:58 AM

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Maybe this is not harsh enough, but after viewing Hobbit 2 by PJ, my sense was "hyper Baroque". Plastered thick. So dense with extra stuff, none of it needed, that you can barely see the architectural design underneath. A pity, since the architecture is of such high quality.

Yes, if it aint Baroque, don't fix it.

Galin · 04-20-2014, 10:30 AM

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Yes, if it aint Baroque, don't fix it.

Still, I rather wish Arthur Nouveau had directed these films, although that's just my impressionism from seeing the trailers.

William Cloud Hicklin · 04-20-2014, 02:52 PM

Would it really have been too much to ask, or to expect, that when somebody finally made a serious attempt to film Tolkien the goal would have been cinema that fell into the category which might be roughly defined as "cerebral epic" or "big-budget art film," a category which would include, say, 2001, Apocalypse Now and Ran?

littlemanpoet · 04-20-2014, 03:12 PM

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Would it really have been too much to ask, or to expect, that when somebody finally made a serious attempt to film Tolkien the goal would have been cinema that fell into the category which might be roughly defined as "cerebral epic" or "big-budget art film," a category which would include, say, 2001, Apocalypse Now and Ran?

Your query resonates with me. It would require the right kind of director. I just can't imagine those who do art film being interested in LotR.

Mithalwen · 04-20-2014, 03:52 PM

How about Ang Lee?

littlemanpoet · 04-20-2014, 05:13 PM

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How about Ang Lee?

Want to ask him if he'll do it in about twenty years? Or will he be dead by then?

Morthoron · 04-20-2014, 06:43 PM

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How about Ang Lee?

How about Spike Lee? I can see it now:

The Lord of the Rings: Do the Wight Thing

Inziladun · 04-20-2014, 04:30 PM

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Yes, if it aint Baroque, don't fix it.

And if you do, at least don't make a hobbit of it!

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Would it really have been too much to ask, or to expect, that when somebody finally made a serious attempt to film Tolkien the goal would have been cinema that fell into the category which might be roughly defined as "cerebral epic" or "big-budget art film," a category which would include, say, 2001, Apocalypse Now and Ran?

I never wanted these big time PJ blockbusters made because it was clear from the start, with all the merchandising buzz even before filming was complete, that giving the movies the feel of the books was not in the least a goal. It was about "translation" and "adaptation", and to this day I feel that those who have only seen the films have no inkling of the deep meaning and real resonance of the books, infused by the author.
I fervently hope they never get the rights for Beren and Lúthien, or anything else to do with Middle-earth or Tolkien.

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William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	Would it really have been too much to ask, or to expect, that when somebody finally made a serious attempt to film Tolkien the goal would have been cinema that fell into the category which might be roughly defined as "cerebral epic" or "big-budget art film," a category which would include, say, 2001, Apocalypse Now and Ran? __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.

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Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	How about Ang Lee? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

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littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Maybe this is not harsh enough, but after viewing Hobbit 2 by PJ, my sense was "hyper Baroque". Plastered thick. So dense with extra stuff, none of it needed, that you can barely see the architectural design underneath. A pity, since the architecture is of such high quality.