What if Glorfindel joined the fellowship to Lothlorien? - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Arathorn111 · 01-10-2014, 10:54 PM

You have valid points Borormir, but Gandalf reveals himself at Caradhras, does he not? At that point, would it change Saurons mind having Glorfindel with them? I mean, if Sauron did discover that Gandalf along with a company of hobbits (the last known ringbearers to Saurons knowledge) left Rivendell (the last place the ring was known to be) would he not have susspected the same thing, Glorfindol or no Glorfindel?

Nerwen · 01-11-2014, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Arathorn111

You have valid points Borormir, but Gandalf reveals himself at Caradhras, does he not? At that point, would it change Saurons mind having Glorfindel with them? I mean, if Sauron did discover that Gandalf along with a company of hobbits (the last known ringbearers to Saurons knowledge) left Rivendell (the last place the ring was known to be) would he not have susspected the same thing, Glorfindol or no Glorfindel?

Arathorn, you still seem to be assuming everything that happened to the Fellowship was planned, or at least known about in advance. I mean, this isn't some fourth-wall-breaker deal where the characters get to flip ahead and learn the plot of the book they're in.

Arathorn111 · 01-12-2014, 06:26 PM

Nerwen, I suppose you are right, the "what if"-thinking got a bit unrealistic under the affection of an ale to many. I apologise and I thank you for pointing that out

Rhod the Red · 01-13-2014, 07:58 AM

Tom Bombidilo? Lol, not really conceivable. But if he did.......I imagine it'd succeed more easily in some respects. But when they're supposed to be sneaking about in Mordor, could he keep quiet & resist the need to sing?

To big a risk to take

Sarumian · 01-13-2014, 06:57 PM

I totally agree that Glorfindel's presence could have made the Fellowship much more noticeable to the Enemy and his servants. On the other hand, Glorfindel was a great Captain, he headed the host from Rivendell against Angmar and was capable of withstanding the Nine. As a small company the Fellowship could hardly need a second warrior of this league as they already had Gandalf, but in case Rivendell had had to send a host out they would have been in need of a capable commander to allow Elrond to remain in charge of Rivendell itself.

blantyr · 01-14-2014, 03:20 AM

I thought the decision was... well... sentimental might not quite be the right word. I think Gandalf made the key speech which swung the decision in favor of the hobbits. It wasn't a question of power, but of heart. It was the Hobbits' time.

Lérië · 01-14-2014, 05:39 AM

Would not the Balrog sense Glorfindel's presence? Maybe Balrogs can hold a grudge, but I doubt this one remembers Glorfindel, or maybe he has never even heard or seen the Balrog Slayer.

01-13-2014, 07:58 AM	#4
Rhod the Red Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 257	Tom Bombidilo? Lol, not really conceivable. But if he did.......I imagine it'd succeed more easily in some respects. But when they're supposed to be sneaking about in Mordor, could he keep quiet & resist the need to sing? To big a risk to take __________________ Head of the Fifth Order of the Istari Tenure: Fourth Age(Year 1) - Present Currently operating in Melbourne, Australia

01-14-2014, 03:20 AM	#6
blantyr Wight Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Settling down in Bree for the winter. Posts: 208	Heart I thought the decision was... well... sentimental might not quite be the right word. I think Gandalf made the key speech which swung the decision in favor of the hobbits. It wasn't a question of power, but of heart. It was the Hobbits' time.

01-14-2014, 05:39 AM	#7
Lérië Newly Deceased Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Formerly Eryn Lasgalen, now in Avallónë, Tol Eressëa, so I may catch a glimpse of Endor in my dreamless sleep. Posts: 2	Would not the Balrog sense Glorfindel's presence? Maybe Balrogs can hold a grudge, but I doubt this one remembers Glorfindel, or maybe he has never even heard or seen the Balrog Slayer. __________________ Ar fíralë quelli ya mauya ten harya cuilë.- And some that die deserve life.

01-10-2014, 10:54 PM	#1
Arathorn111 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 21	You have valid points Borormir, but Gandalf reveals himself at Caradhras, does he not? At that point, would it change Saurons mind having Glorfindel with them? I mean, if Sauron did discover that Gandalf along with a company of hobbits (the last known ringbearers to Saurons knowledge) left Rivendell (the last place the ring was known to be) would he not have susspected the same thing, Glorfindol or no Glorfindel?

01-12-2014, 06:26 PM	#3
Arathorn111 Pile O'Bones Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 21	Nerwen, I suppose you are right, the "what if"-thinking got a bit unrealistic under the affection of an ale to many. I apologise and I thank you for pointing that out

01-13-2014, 06:57 PM	#5
Sarumian Wight Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 129	I totally agree that Glorfindel's presence could have made the Fellowship much more noticeable to the Enemy and his servants. On the other hand, Glorfindel was a great Captain, he headed the host from Rivendell against Angmar and was capable of withstanding the Nine. As a small company the Fellowship could hardly need a second warrior of this league as they already had Gandalf, but in case Rivendell had had to send a host out they would have been in need of a capable commander to allow Elrond to remain in charge of Rivendell itself.