T-I-G CIV: Spambot Apocalypse (Game Thread)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Voting Boro would give me a bit of a chuckle, but I'm not that much of an anarchist at present. The responsible thing to do would be to vote and break the tie in favor of lynching the most suspicious of Rune, BG, and Morsul. Trouble is, they all look innocent. Except BG, but that's because she hasn't been here to look like much of anything. I'd really like to vote Sally, honestly - I can't remember ever seeing an innocent Sally go after the absent player (keep in mind it's late and I'm tired and haven't played in forever) but it's really a moot point in any case since is rather not split the vote any farther.

Very well. I'm uncomfortable voting for BG now that she's shown up (but I had better see some participation tomorrow!) and of Morsul and Rune, I've seen more from Moraul that was even remotely radar-pinging, so:

++Morsul

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, so good to see some activity, even though neither for the subjects heading now for the lynch seem suspicious to me.

I agree BG's votes are probably deserved for the non-activity, and I disagree with her(his?) interpretation of Morsul, but there's nothing that would really speak to innocence or guilt.

Rune could be or could not be innocent, I can't say from his posts.

As for Morsul, I think he is being his typical self. Probably. I won't be voting him toDay, at least, until I see more of him, because he has the habit of getting lynched for just being himself.

Boro did not post virtually (ha, ha, ha!) anything. Like some others, I did not really get what did Zil find about it that seemed like hint, but whatever.

Zil himself is maybe a bit worrying, but not more than usually.

Kitanna - analyzing a lot, could be also setting somebody up (such as sally), but with this few posts I can't say for sure. Maybe G55 has also something in saying that she's a bit avoiding the heat.

About others I spoke also a bit before... practically nobody is very special in any case.

Hmm, and now as I am writing this, I see that Shasta has voted. I really don't think Morsul is the way to go. Now the question is whether I should make a blind shot and vote either BG or Rune. Personally, if speaking objectively and about "non-participation", maybe I would even have preferred Boro on the basis of "justice", but there isn't really anything concrete to go with.

Hmm. Rune generally seems to me more shady (feeling me that I should be more careful to pay attention to him, since he may be up to something), while BG is a more wild stab, but at the same point more "unknown" and I am afraid it would remain so even in the future (based on how little I remember about him/her from the past games). So maybe actually in terms of "clarifying", and given that neither of the picks is my favourite, BG might be better.

Going to check the thread and then vote..

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I agree BG's votes are probably deserved for the non-activity, ...

Deserved, yes, but what about the flip side of the coin? Am I the only one who finds those votes extremely wrong in that they defy the point of voting on D1 even without any clear suspicions? (That's a question for everyone, not specifically Legate; he was just the last to post about it). Lottie's is a copout and the closest thing to not voting, and that after all the talk prior about voting even if your suspicion is ridiculous. Sally gives a reason for her vote, but it's a bad reason (even D1 speaking) and a suspicious vote. I have no idea about BG's guilt or innocence, but just looking at the votes she's received makes my warning lights beep. Am I the only one who sees these votes this way?

Edit: xed since my last

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Loslote

++BG

Brilliant vote. Juuuuust brilliant. You may as well have abstained.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

While I'm not sure it points to her guilt, I find it strange that BG suggested Nerwen remind other players about the start of the game, yet she hasn't shown up herself. It's 4.5 hours before the DL and she's not yet shown up, which I think means she likely won't be here at all. As much as I hate to risk lynching someone when they're not around, I do think she'd have made a point to pop in if she were "important" in the forum. If anything, at least we won't be losing anyone who has contributed thus far....

++BG

And with that, I'm gone for the night. BG, if you do show up and you're innocent, I do hope you manage to swing the ban hammer in a better direction, but at this point I'd prefer to just cut our losses and take out the possible blind threat (pun absolutely intended).

Another one? Sally, what kinda vote is that? That's an out-of game reason for one thing. Also, your metareasoning contradicts itself. If she were important would, IMO, include being a wolf. And isn't your real best bet going for someone you suspect, even if it's on a vibe feeling, and NOT someone you have no clue about? Sally, sally. You've just shot up to the upper levels of my suspect list.

Maybe I'm making a fly of an elephant (what's the English version of that?... Mountain out of a molehill?), but I'm very cross and this is a pretty sketchy vote to say the least. Sketchier than Lottie's too because it's a piggyback with a very bad reason.

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

So from what little there is, I'm gonna go with either Rune or G55 being the Seer, Loslote and/or Boro and/or Satansaloser a Wolf, and either Shasta or Inzil and/or G55 being the Hacker/Cobbler.

Excuse me, are you voting for someone you're considering a Gifted? And it's probably a better idea to keep your gifted thoughts to yourself. The wolves read everything you post same as the village.

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Maybe not very helpful, but better than staying quiet.

Rune, you did say some things, but you were very uninteractive. It was like having a one-way conversation. It doesn't work. You made your comments but you didn't reply to others' comments on you. I share Legate's thought on this, cause it was annoying me a bit that when you showed up last time you barely interacted and disappeared. You are still doing that now, btw.




At the moment, though sally is my preferred vote choice,

++RUNE

because as I've said numerous times I don't find Morsul suspicious, and although I have no clue about BG I'm extremely cross at the two votes she's got and will definitely not get a third.

Edit: xed with Legate

[Nerwen]

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Half an hour to DL.

Updated tally:

Morsul —> Rune
Inziladun —> Boro
Loslote —> Blind Guardian
Kitanna —> Morsul
Sally —> Blind Guardian (2)
Blind Guardian —> Rune (2)
Rune —> Morsul (2)
Shasta —> Morsul (3)
G55 —> Rune (3)

Left to vote: Legate, Boro.

There is now a tie between Morsul and Rune, with Morsul the current lynchee under the tie-breaker rule.

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[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Interesting post from G55. Quite strong-opinioned, but seems pretty genuine, I quite like it. I agree with lot she says, including about the two votes for BG - I had similar feelings at first, although then again, on Day 1 I can understand people vote randomly. The thing is, it is quite unlikely the two doing them would be Wolves - that'd be just so random, and the only logical explanation for them doing so would be them being three and their mate being already threatened, which is still rather weird scenario, because there would be still so many other possible lynches... So certainly I would not see a concerted evil plan in it. But I agree I have seen better reasoning.

That still says nothing about that if I am to pick one out of the wannabe-lynchees, BG might be the best option ("best"), though Rune would go as well. I would just have preferred to see more from him still.

Okay, gotta think for a second, see if I crossposted with anyone or such, then vote...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Is Boro around at all? It would be also interesting to give all power to him and make it a three-way tie (then his vote would say something about him), but if he's not around, then it doesn't make any sense...

Truth be told, I really find it more likely Rune being a Wolf than Morsul.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Is Boro around at all? It would be also interesting to give all power to him and make it a three-way tie (then his vote would say something about him), but if he's not around, then it doesn't make any sense...

I wouldn't take the chance; it's veeery early morning here. It's odd for Boro to not show up beyond a joke post, but I can understand RL and the DL buddying up on him.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Okay, okay. I feel really bad because a) I haven't played with Rune for a long time, b) I really don't think he is that suspicious that he would deserve a vote (but nobody is), c) Rune is still here at Finlandmoot for one day, so I just hope I get off with it without having arms broken as repayment... Then again, hopefully this game will be short so we can interact soon in some other game, and even more hopefully he is just a Bot.

++Rune

Let's hope for the best.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

I agree with lot she says, including about the two votes for BG - I had similar feelings at first, although then again, on Day 1 I can understand people vote randomly. The thing is, it is quite unlikely the two doing them would be Wolves - that'd be just so random, and the only logical explanation for them doing so would be them being three and their mate being already threatened, which is still rather weird scenario, because there would be still so many other possible lynches... So certainly I would not see a concerted evil plan in it. But I agree I have seen better reasoning.

I don't see a concentrated wolf plan in that either. As you say, if both are wolves, they could have piggybacked on a different subject. But then all these scenarios come into my head where either one or both are wolves, and I decided it's too early both in the game and in the morning to assuradly accuse anyone of wolvery. Suspicious - definitely, but I'll wait with the wolf theories.

Edit: xed with Legate

[Galadriel55]

This is the quietest last 10 minutes of D1 I've seen in ever. *pokes the silence*

[Galadriel55]

Good Night people, I... *yawns*

[Nerwen]

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Deadline. No more posting.

Rune has been lynched.

Narration to follow.

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[Nerwen]

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Even the grim routines of cyber-slavery could not permanently crush the Downer spirit. Once they became accustomed to their toil– which this "day" consisted of repairing a broken bridge-like structure, the virtual representation of a damaged circuit– the slaves fell back into the human habit of chatting. As they compared notes, they began to realise something strange was going on. Some had heard bot-like noises in the cells adjoining theirs; others had intercepted part of a frantic transmission from Nerwen and Aganzir.

"Some of us," they said in whispers, trying to avoid the attention of their overseer-bots, "are not what they seem…"

But no-one could agree who was acting the most robot-like.

Some favoured Morsul the Dark, others Boro.

"It's Blind Guardian," Sally and Lottie argued. "She's not here, which is very evil of her indeed."

"Yes I am," Blind Guardian piped up. "Here, I mean, not evil. Wherever here is. Where are we? Who are we? How do we play this, again?"

"The poor thing's just disoriented," said the figure who occasionally looked like Karl Marx. "Leave her alone.”

"Rune's right," said Galadriel55, nodding her daffodil-bells. "We should lynch him instead."

"Good! Let me take care of him!" cried Legate, snatching up a light-whip that one of the overseer-bots had left lying around (there were a few glitches in their coding).

The whip extended as it lashed its target, spiralled up and down his virtual body, brightening into a column of unbearably brilliant energy.

When it faded, there was no sign of Rune.

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In the real world, another young coma patient gave up his feeble grip on life. Another family mourned.

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Living
Inziladun
Galadriel55
Sally
Legate
Kitanna
Boromir88
Blind Guardian
Loslote
Morsul the Dark
Shasta


Dead
Coppermirror, Lommy– seized by Adult Friend Finder.
Nerwen, Aganzir– poisoned by webcrawlers.
Rune– lashed to death with overseer-bot’s light whip. (Ordinary cyber-slave.)

It is now Night Two.

[Nerwen]

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Inziladun had his own plans for escape. During the day’s labours, he had managed to palm a small ICE pick (ICE of course standing for “Intrusion Countermeasures Electronics”). With this, he hoped, he might weaken the code that defined his cell. Waiting until the bot-guards had passed by on their rounds, Zil drove the pick into the wall again and again. Fissures ran out from the point of impact, and the circuit-like patterns of the walls and ceiling were flickering, changing.

Then, alarms screeched and the clattering steps of spiderbots raced towards his prison.

"tom not like humans. humans bad,” the crimson-eyed bot muttered as it entered.

“Tom! What did I say? –This person,” Lucy announced officiously, " has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.” Wresting the pick from Zil’s hand with her hideous claw, she hammered it into his skull, causing his head to explode.

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Living
Galadriel55
Sally
Legate
Kitanna
Boromir88
Blind Guardian
Loslote
Morsul the Dark
Shasta


Dead
Coppermirror, Lommy– seized by Adult Friend Finder.
Nerwen, Aganzir– poisoned by webcrawlers.
Rune– lashed to death with overseer-bot’s light whip. (Ordinary cyber-slave.)
Inziladun– ICE pick to the head. (Ordinary cyber-slave.)

Day Two has begun.

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[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Voting Boro would give me a bit of a chuckle, but I'm not that much of an anarchist at present. The responsible thing to do would be to vote and break the tie in favor of lynching the most suspicious of Rune, BG, and Morsul. Trouble is, they all look innocent. Except BG, but that's because she hasn't been here to look like much of anything. I'd really like to vote Sally, honestly - I can't remember ever seeing an innocent Sally go after the absent player (keep in mind it's late and I'm tired and haven't played in forever) but it's really a moot point in any case since is rather not split the vote any farther.

Very well. I'm uncomfortable voting for BG now that she's shown up (but I had better see some participation tomorrow!) and of Morsul and Rune, I've seen more from Moraul that was even remotely radar-pinging, so:++Morsul

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I'm not sure where your suspicion of Shasta is coming from.
Because Rune says "ooo Legate is suspicious (but not really suspicious) because I'm not throwing accusations around or anything, but rule clarification can be used as a smokescreen"
Then Shasta says "I think because of the narration there's probably two bots" which looked to me like an interpretation and not trying to lull anyone into any sense of security. Because if we manage to take down two bots and the game is still on, well we just play as we have always played until we find the third. Shasta's statement didn't seem nefarious or lully to me at all.

Firstly, I totally didn't know about the multi quote thing AWESOME.

Secondly, TO start from the end and work backward to answer Kitanna If there are two bots we have a smidge of leeway on wrong lynches so if we think there are two but there's three we could be a tad careless.

Shasta's vote put me in the lead I didn't put much into it but now I'm rereading the post he says BG is most suspicious and decides to vote me... Hmmm...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

For what it's worth, if I had been around to vote yesterday it would have been Morsul.

Question: why Morsul and not me? Because he had votes and I did not, so you wouldn't want to bring in a new candidate?

Originally Posted by Boromir88

I mean yeah, we have to lynch the bots, but at the same time, if someone's going out of their way looking like the hacker, they either are the hacker and it would be better off to lynch sooner rather than later. Or their a bot playing the hacker because they know the reaction is going to be "oh we have to kill bots, not the hacker." If the hacker wants to be the early lynch sacrifice that's far less damaging than just letting the hacker stay around indefinitely. When we know the bots aren't going to kill the role and when the lynches get more crucial making it easier for the bots and hacker to join forces and push the lynches to their favor.

Yes, while I agree in general, I'm not so certain when I look at the stats -

9 living players total.

3 gifteds, 1 cobbler.

5 ordos + wolves.

Assuming worst case scenario: 3 wolves, no wolf lynches, no Ranger saves
D2 - 8 total; 3 wolves, 5 innocents
N3 - 7 players total; 3 wolves, 4 innocents
D3 - 6 players; 3 wolves, 3 innocents. Wolves win.

We only have 2 Days to change the scales. Yes, you can say that maybe there'll be a save, and we'll get a wolf, and maybe there are less wolves, but the thing is, if there isn't there won't be any miracle either. As I've said back in the beginning of D1, I'll join in on the hoping, but don't rely on it.

So where was I going with this? Ah. The cobbler. In general, I agree 100% that a cobbler must go too. But the cobbler also counts as an innocent in the tally. We don't have much room for wiggling, so if I see someone with wolvish behaviour I'd go for that one instead of a cobbler.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

[CENTER]“Ooops...” the spectral voice whispered.

O spectral voice! Ere you are gone into the realm of mysteries.... erm, Rune too.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

No, dear, I was simply cross that I didn't wait five more minutes to submit my post. Had I, you'd have been here already and I wouldn't have voted you. But, you know, that's sort of how my luck runs....

Speaking of that, yes - can you please explain your vote yesterDay?

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Am I the only one that things it would be a great idea to use random banter and acting to hide a seer dream? I'm going to be watching out for G55, but hopefully for good reasons. That said...

Alright. I am the Seer.

Is that true, considering that just yesterDay I revealed as a wolf the exact same way? Are you going to believe me?

The answer, by the way, is supposed to be: NO, even regardless of what I said yesterDay. Incidentally, I am also the Ranger, Cobbler, and Ordo. All at once. Maybe a bit of Hunter as well. Don't be surprised.

For the second time, BG, don't talk aloud of your gifted suspicions. Even if they prove incorrect, they still nudge the wolves towards finding one or more of them. Go one exploring potential hints, but keep your thoughts silent.

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

What I'm trying to say is she is something. She could be a seer or a hacker or a gifted. Or she could just be screwing with us.

The last one is more likely. And for goodness sakes, STOP WITH THE GIFTEDS!

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

If there are two bots we have a smidge of leeway on wrong lynches so if we think there are two but there's three we could be a tad careless.

My thoughts exactly.

[Blind Guardian]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

For the second time, BG, don't talk aloud of your gifted suspicions. Even if they prove incorrect, they still nudge the wolves towards finding one or more of them. Go one exploring potential hints, but keep your thoughts silent.
The last one is more likely. And for goodness sakes, STOP WITH THE GIFTEDS!

Umm, I didn't even think about it. *shrugs*

Originally Posted by Kitanna

This is response to Morsul's response that was in response to your post that G55 is "something"

Why would you throw out your seer prediction? Where is the benefit unless you are a hacker signaling bots or your a bot signaling cohorts on your thoughts just in case you don't make it to the night. I'm inclined to believe hacker because only a bot headed for the gallows (recycle bin? Hard drive wipe?) would make so blantant a seer comment on some who is still ALIVE!

I didn't think it was a bad thing I'm sorry. I'm gonna go sit in the naughty corner now...

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Then of course BG showed up and the reason I voted for her was a moot point, as she was there and contributing (sort of) to the thread. Therefore, regret.

You know what I find absolutely hilarious? I didn't know this game was happening until way past midnight. And now everyone hates me. I feel like such a troll. /sarcasm/

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Lottie and Sally are both bothering me, but I can't put my finger on why. They both seem to be jumping rather hard on BG - not to say that I don't agree with them, because I do, but... I don't know. It's just strange. Perhaps I'll be able to tell why tomorrow. I do think, combined with yesterday, that it's enough to vote Sally, however.

++Sally

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

What I'm trying to say is she is something. She could be a seer or a hacker or a gifted. Or she could just be screwing with us. But as long as she doesn't do something crazy I don't think I'll be voting for her tonight.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Why would you throw out your seer prediction? Where is the benefit unless you are a hacker signaling bots or your a bot signaling cohorts on your thoughts just in case you don't make it to the night. I'm inclined to believe hacker because only a bot headed for the gallows (recycle bin? Hard drive wipe?) would make so blantant a seer comment on some who is still ALIVE!

Originally Posted by G55

For the second time, BG, don't talk aloud of your gifted suspicions. Even if they prove incorrect, they still nudge the wolves towards finding one or more of them. Go one exploring potential hints, but keep your thoughts silent.

Exactly my thoughts! That was really, really, really unwise, BG, if you are innocent, and if you're evil, then well... Looks like more hacker-y thing than suicidal Wolf-y thing to say, true, but still. I was seriously considering voting BG, were it not for her last post where it sounds like genuine remorse. Still then, I am not sure whom I'd like to vote now.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

So where was I going with this? Ah. The cobbler. In general, I agree 100% that a cobbler must go too. But the cobbler also counts as an innocent in the tally. We don't have much room for wiggling, so if I see someone with wolvish behaviour I'd go for that one instead of a cobbler.

But that goes without saying, doesn't it?

I realise I am pretty much in the dark about people like Sally, Shasta, Lottie and Boro. BG now had this awful incident... Morsul is strange (indeed again saying "I know something you don't but I can't tell you", is not much help). As for others... G55 I am still wary about, Kitanna makes lot of sense though of course we still need to catch us a Bot to see whether her posts are not intentionally leading us away from her packmate(s) or somesuch...

So who gets my vote... and since DL is approaching and I bet I also x-posted with someone, I bet I'll be simply left to vote for the most suspicious of those who get votes; which I am not so happy with given how it ended up last time... But let's see...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

The knee-jerk part of me says "vote for BG, obviously up to no good!" The logical part says"Bot BG has nothing to gain, hacker at best."
Which brings me to Boro and G55 and the advantage/disadvantage of lynching a hacker. G55 is right that the hacker counts as an ordo and we lose an "innocent" by lynching him/her. But at the same time the longer one is alive the more dangerous he/she becomes. A seer sees only an ordo and at end game the hacker can tip the scales to a bot victory. Ideally the bots just kill the hacker in the night.

I agree wholeheartedly, but then I remind myself that in one of her opening posts BG said that she doesn't remember the rules very well. But on the other hand, I did give her a reminder the first tiime she did it. I don't know. Too many possibilities.

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Morsul, on the other hand, does have some explaining to do, for this post, in which he implies he's picked up on a seer hint that incriminates Shasta but doesn't want to point it out. You realize of course that the bots can now find the seer more easily, even without your hint about the hint you found?

It bothers me that Morsul didn't try to build a case (even a flimsy one) against Shasta beforehand, but instead put it right out there that he found a seer hint implicating the lad. It almost would bother me more if he turns out innocent than it would if it turns out he's guilty, because I can't think of why any innocent would think to betray a gifted like that.

I don't know, I don't know. I think he's genuine about that, and tried to not give anything away. He succeeded with me; I couldn't find what he's talking about. But then we just tend to read things differently.

Originally Posted by sally

Also, Kitanna suspects BG and then votes me for my "suspicious" vote of BG. Iiiiiiiiiinteresting indeed. I don't like the deflection there, especially since BG has in fact been acting off.

See, cupcake, your vote for BG came before she started acting off, even before she was acting at all. Leap of logic much?

Originally Posted by sally

On that note, I'll certainly offer a brief explanation. I was operating under a similar thought process that Lottie and, to some extent, Shasta were. When you don't see a suspicious character among you, you suspect the one you don't see. Well, not suspect, really, given that she wasn't there to be suspected, as Shasta said, but this sums up my vote nicely.

In other words copped out and buddied up.



I don't like how sally is behaving in respect to BG and to Morsul. Others take that viewpoint too, but they do it more genuinely and more from themselves. Sally seems to be buddying up with existing suspicions and feelings, not really sticking her head out, looking for easy targets. She might very well be my vote today, even though she seems to have a vote pile of her own.

I could also be convinced of voting Boro or Legate, but not to the same extent. And I want to hear them talk more. Hopefully Boro will make it this morning.

EDIT: xed with Morsul

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Question: why Morsul and not me? Because he had votes and I did not, so you wouldn't want to bring in a new candidate?

Yes.

Here and caught up.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Alright. I am the Seer.

Well, maybe I just am.

Unfortunately, I have no wolves to offer you. What I can give you is names of people not to lynch.

However, I really want to see the interactions before I give them away. On the other hand, I'll only be home at 10pm GMT-5, and I don't want people to vote before I do that. I am debating between revealing them now and revealing them then. If you have suggestions, I'm still here for about 10 minutes before I leave.

[Galadriel55]

Ok I checked the voting times for the past two Days, and I think the majority votes after the time I get home. Names to be revealed later.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Well, maybe I just am.

Unfortunately, I have no wolves to offer you. What I can give you is names of people not to lynch.

However, I really want to see the interactions before I give them away. On the other hand, I'll only be home at 10pm GMT-5, and I don't want people to vote before I do that. I am debating between revealing them now and revealing them then. If you have suggestions, I'm still here for about 10 minutes before I leave.

If you be true than even a few cleared innocents can go a long way in salvaging a win.

But I'm also getting this feeling you're what I've suspected all along, and that is the traitor hacker who now notices the good time to sacrifice yourself and try to draw out the real seer while you're at it. If this is the case, than I'm going to be kicking myself for not being around more often to make sure you were lynched as soon as possible. And for trying to convince myself "Oh come on Boro, you've been the seer and acted like the cobbler before, it's actually very good cover for a seer. Hold off and don't blow her cover."

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

If you be true than even a few cleared innocents can go a long way in salvaging a win.

But I'm also getting this feeling you're what I've suspected all along, and that is the traitor hacker who now notices the good time to sacrifice yourself and try to draw out the real seer while you're at it. If this is the case, than I'm going to be kicking myself for not being around more often to make sure you were lynched as soon as possible. And for trying to convince myself "Oh come on Boro, you've been the seer and acted like the cobbler before, it's actually very good cover for a seer. Hold off and don't blow her cover."

Didn't you once false reveal as the ranger and get the real ranger lynched? Thus meaning reveals must now always be taken with a grain of salt since there's baddies everywhere.

I don't think G55 is a bot attempting a false reveal, but like I said I'm taking this with a grain of salt.

I'm at work so I can't really do much by way of picking apart posts from days past until I get home. But I'm going to try to keep up and comment on the posts that come in today.

[Blind Guardian]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Well, maybe I just am.

Unfortunately, I have no wolves to offer you. What I can give you is names of people not to lynch.

However, I really want to see the interactions before I give them away. On the other hand, I'll only be home at 10pm GMT-5, and I don't want people to vote before I do that. I am debating between revealing them now and revealing them then. If you have suggestions, I'm still here for about 10 minutes before I leave.

Didn't you also admit to being the Cobbler and Wolf and everything else this game? And you expect us to trust you now?

Morsul, I am a girl.

Sorry for not voting last night, I fell asleep while reading... Here and rereading everything now.

Tell me it's not a coincidence that I've been redirected to the Adult Friend Finder website today?

[Morsul the Dark]

SO um... What happened with Sally? yesterday I know she was a bit odd... But not lynch odd.

Also the nightkill makes me pretty much sure that my theory from yesterday was wrong. So Shasta is back on my nice list.

[Morsul the Dark]

So we have

a hacker
a seer
a hunter
two(or three) bots
and two(or one) Ordo...

Well isn't this dandy...

Innocent-

Shasta
Morsul

Trust
G55

hacker-BG(I think)

rest of everyone is in the I dunno category.

SO let's at the votes:

5 people voted for Sally.

those 5 people are still alive

I voted Shasta on the theory I have zero faith in now and BG didn't vote

so well that was helpful.

Boro and Legate pushed her over the edge though being the last two on the wagon sooo they look the worst. Not by much though...

Now basically we all have to agree on the next lynch and hope it's right because we're getting to that scary part of the game where bots bandwagonning is easy.

[Blind Guardian]

Current Living:
Galadriel55
Legate
Kitanna
Boromir88
Blind Guardian
Morsul the Dark
Shasta


Current Dead:
Coppermirror, Lommy– seized by Adult Friend Finder.
Nerwen, Aganzir– poisoned by webcrawlers.
Rune– lashed to death with overseer-bot’s light whip. (Ordinary cyber-slave.)
Inziladun– ICE pick to the head. (Ordinary cyber-slave.)
Sally– pushed down a data-mineshaft. (R.A.N.G.E.R.)
Lottie– rubbed out. (ordinary cyber-slave)


Day One votes (italics = dead):
Morsul —> Rune
Inziladun —> Boro (Because of possible Hacker hint)
Loslote —> Blind Guardian (Because I wasn't there)
Kitanna —> Morsul (Because of a gut feeling)
Sally —> Blind Guardian (2) (Again, because I wasn't there)
Blind Guardian —> Rune (2) (Self-preservation, mainly [how many times have I died on Day One now?], and at the time he seemed to be the best bet.)
Rune —> Morsul (2)
Shasta --> Morsul (3) (Something that was radar pinging?)
G55 --> Rune (3) (Wanted to vote Sally)
Legate --> Rune (4) (I didn't see a reason, except that Rune was with her at the time? I gotta say this was a bandwagon vote.)

RESULT: Rune lynched - Ordo


Day Two:


Okay I have to go right now so I will finish this in another post later.

[Morsul the Dark]

Originally Posted by Blind Guardian

Legate --> Rune (4) (I didn't see a reason, except that Rune was with her at the time? I gotta say this was a bandwagon vote.)
.

similar to yesterday now that you mention it... or Day two however you want to say it...

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Legate

This just rings "bad" to me, because while G55 was obviously using (whether she actually is a real Seer or not) her previous quote as sort of random reference, not as proof (the proof was her revelation itself), BG is taking this as "serious" thing, which is somewhat eyebrow-raising at least for me.

I find that quote interesting because BG also said

What I'm trying to say is she is something. She could be a seer or a hacker or a gifted. Or she could just be screwing with us.

Originally Posted by Morsul

Also the nightkill makes me pretty much sure that my theory from yesterday was wrong. So Shasta is back on my nice list.

Originally Posted by Morsul Yesterday

Not too much recent behavior. Want to see more before going too much further but Shasta is in my sights but for something apparently only I caught or only I think is actually important...

I don't want to put a potential seer in trouble though, if I am right, so I might have more to say depending on how the day goes...

Can you shade some light on these hints now? Or will you just keep quiet until we discover if G55 is seer or not?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I find that quote interesting because BG also said

Hmm. Yes, well, care to elaborate what exactly you think about it, then?

(I am still going through people's posts earlier and preparing a summary-ish thing)

[Blind Guardian]

Current Living:
Galadriel55
Legate
Kitanna
Boromir88
Blind Guardian
Morsul the Dark
Shasta


Current Dead:
Coppermirror, Lommy– seized by Adult Friend Finder.
Nerwen, Aganzir– poisoned by webcrawlers.
Rune– lashed to death with overseer-bot’s light whip. (Ordinary cyber-slave.)
Inziladun– ICE pick to the head. (Ordinary cyber-slave.)
Sally– pushed down a data-mineshaft. (R.A.N.G.E.R.)
Lottie– rubbed out. (ordinary cyber-slave)


Day One votes (italics = dead):
Morsul —> Rune
Inziladun —> Boro (Because of possible Hacker hint)
Loslote —> Blind Guardian (Because I wasn't there)
Kitanna —> Morsul (Because of a gut feeling)
Sally —> Blind Guardian (2) (Again, because I wasn't there)
Blind Guardian —> Rune (2) (Self-preservation, mainly [how many times have I died on Day One now?], and at the time he seemed to be the best bet.)
Rune —> Morsul (2)
Shasta --> Morsul (3) (Something that was radar pinging?)
G55 --> Rune (3) (Wanted to vote Sally)
Legate --> Rune (4) (I didn't see a reason, except that Rune was with her at the time? I gotta say this was a bandwagon vote.)

Note: Boro didn't vote

RESULT: Rune lynched - Ordo
WOLF KILLED: Inziladun


Day Two (italics = dead):
Morsul --> Shasta (No reason, just some "hint")
Kit --> Sally (1) (Doesn't like Sally's reasoning for voting for me)
Loslote (This is Lottie right?) --> Morsul (1) (Wanted to vote for Morsul and I; voted Morsul because he was mysterious and threw out gifted hints)
Satansaloser2005 (this is Sally right?) --> Legate
Shasta --> Sally (2) (She was between Lottie and Sally, no reason given it seems.)
Legate --> Sally (3) (Didn't like Sally's vote the day before [?])
G55 --> Sally (4) (Didn't like how Sally was behaving towards Morsul and I, thought she was suspicious)
Boro --> Sally (5) (Didn't like Sally's votes)

Note: I (BG) didn't vote

RESULT: Sally lynched - R.A.N.G.E.R
WOLF KILLED: LOTTIE

Okay these were the results of the last two days and people reasons for them - feel free to correct it, some people gave confusing reasons or none at all that I can see. Shasta and Boro mainly.

That leaves us with 1 Hacker, 1 Seer, 1 Hunter, X number of Wolves, and X number of Ordos. I would like to think 2 Wolves and 2 Ordos also, that leaves us with 1 Seer, 1 Hunter (right?), and 2 Ordos in our side. While they have 1 Hacker, and 2 Wolves. If not it would be, 1 Seer, 1 Hunter, and 1 Ordo, with them having 1 Hacker and 3 Wolves.

I haven't read anything since my last post... and nothing happened since my last post.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Okay, so what I'm seeing so far is G55 has come out as the Seer and Morsul the Hunter. At the very least, everyone has posted now since G55's reveal, so I'm going to believe it since no one has countered her claim. I'm tentatively believing Morsul's reveal as well. Since I know I'm innocent, that means there's two bots and one hacker in the following group -

BG
Boro
Legate
Kitanna

Hopefully G55 has dreamt of one or two of those names. With a 75% chance of hitting a baddie, though, I'm tentatively hopeful!

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Well, maybe I just am.

Unfortunately, I have no wolves to offer you. What I can give you is names of people not to lynch.

I knew it! Day 1, I said, "I bet she's the Seer pretending to be the Hacker...better insist as loudly as I can that she's the Hacker!" and I was right! Ha!

In other news, brilliantly played Kit - I never really suspected you until after my death.

General apologies for not being able to participate more. I seriously underestimated how much time classes were going to take up. Good game, though! Can't wait for the next one.

[Blind Guardian]

I just read through all of G55's posts on the first 3 pages. Okay, she's said she was the seer twice and a wolf 1 1/2 times and maybe even the cobbler (because she does what she says someone else does). When I call her a seer she admits to being the seer, then get's protective, and then gets mad. Then her next two double posts she tries to chew me up and admits to being angry at my post.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I am a wolf.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Alright. I am the Seer.

Is that true, considering that just yesterDay I revealed as a wolf the exact same way? Are you going to believe me?

The answer, by the way, is supposed to be: NO, even regardless of what I said yesterDay. Incidentally, I am also the Ranger, Cobbler, and Ordo. All at once. Maybe a bit of Hunter as well. Don't be surprised.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Just watch me. Next time I'm a wolf I will reveal myself and maybe even my mates in the first post. Mark these words, you have it coming. What you won't know is if I'm actually a wolf or just messing with your head.
I was bored of making joke suspicion lists. This is much more interesting. And I'm definitely up to something. *licks cyberchops*
That aside, if you two are still around now I don't mind a cyber chat... Let me just go find something to say.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

Hey, last game I played in the cobbler inserted the phrase similar to "I'm a cobbler! Don't kill me!" into his post and just masked it in the context. With a cobbler, go figure what's a hint and what is simple conversation. On the bright side, the wolves have no advantage over the innocents in this, so everyone is on even ground when looking at a potential cobbler/hacker hint.

You're right, G55, I don't believe you. If you didn't say anything at all I would still be thinking you are the seer but now I'm truly not sure. The only way we could find out would be to lynch you, and we couldn't take the chance at this point that you might really be the seer and not just a wolf trying to help another wolf by taking the attention off of them.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to take a look at Morsul's posts because he was the almost-lynchee.

Edit: x-ed with a LOT of people...

Edited again for misspellings and added some stuff to avoid confusion.

[Kitanna]

I think the nasty weather has finally knocked out my internet. I had hoped to do some analyses of yesterday, but doesn't seem probable since I have to post from my phone. Be prepared for a whole lot of short posts over the next hour.

[Galadriel55]

My suspicion list doesn't seem to need too much updating, but just for the record -
Galadriel55 - still the lovely me
Sally - really don't like her vote yesterDay. Waiting for an explanation.
Legate - no bad vibes, but feeling a bit... agreeable. It was there yesterDay as well, now that I think about it. Not necessarily evil, but worth investigating.
Kitanna - no change at all from yesterDay, but I can sympathise with the bad weather - we got our electricity knocked out for several days last week, and heavy frosts this week - so I will probably give her a pass for toDay. I think she deserves a chance to read and post properly, so unless something will really ping my radar she's not on the vote list.
Boromir88 - I. Don't. Know. I don't like the way he talks about Cobbler lynches; it makes me think he's subtly redirecting attention from a potential wolf to a potential cobbler. Coupled with Inzil's vote, he doesn't look fantastic. But I want to hear more from him before passing judgement.
Blind Guardian - just stop talking about gifteds, will you? Maybe evil, maybe not, but seriously, if you don't stop mentioning your gifted hints I'm either going to think you're a wolf and thus don't care, or a cobbler eager to help.
Loslote - in school.
Morsul the Dark - still don't see him as suspicious.
Shasta - a mna mnum. Mushy. I don't know. Hasn't shown up yet, right? Day2 Opinion delayed.

EDIT: xed with Kit

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

The responsible thing to do would be to vote and break the tie in favor of lynching the most suspicious of Rune, BG, and Morsul. Trouble is, they all look innocent. Except BG, but that's because she hasn't been here to look like much

For my part I read this as "...they all look innocent, except BG, because she..." which I read as you finding suspicion in her absence. Like Sally (I believe though I could be remembering wrong) who said it was odd BG made a point to ask for a game start reminder in the admin thread, but was mysteriously absent.

Edit: fixing a typo, now bedtime for real