PHANTASY FOOTBALL: Arda Cup 2013

[the phantom]

Just letting everyone know, the games of round 2 will start rolling on Sunday.

[satansaloser2005]

Excellent. I'll try to do my picks tomorrow evening, but if I forget, phantom, you have my permission to phone me and shout a lot.

[Gwathagor]

--
Hyarmendacil
Balrog #2
Vana
Ingwe
Arveleg
Arien

++
Tulkas
Olwe
Borowolf
Aegnor
Cirdan
Hurin


GK: *Tulkas (Real Valinor)
DF: Maglor (FC Valinor)
DF: Aragorn (Eriador)
DF: Olwe (The Havens)
DF: Borowolf (TIG)
MF: Aegnor (ACB)
MF: *Yavanna (FC Valinor)
MF: Cirdan (The Havens)
FW: *Curufin (FC Valinor) C
FW: *Miriel (Real Valinor)
FW: Hurin (Hithlum)

[satansaloser2005]

I'm actually decently happy with my squad, at least enough to give them another round as they are. Switching captaincy to Curufin is tempting, and not doing so will probably put me down the list a little, but I'd rather stay consistent than chase after previous victories. After all, Smaug is a flipping dragon. Also, this.

Cupkicks, Round Two: Twice as Sweet to Avoid Defeat
GK: *Huan (FC Val)
DF: Balrog #4 (AC Bel)
DF: Aragorn (Eriador)
DF: BoroWolf (TiG)
DF: *Morgoth (Angband)
MF: NogWight (Eriador)
MF: Daeron (Doriath)
MF: NerWight (TiG)
FW: *Curufin (FC Val)
FW: *Smaug (Erebor) (C)
FW: Thuringwethil (TiG)

[Shastanis Althreduin]

You know, I think I'm just going to go ahead and give my team one more shot. Leave it as is for round two.

[Galadriel55]

I came back, but not back enough to figure out what's going on (or I'm just too busy defending one epic hero over at the Books forum ). Can someone tell me where we are right now and what/if I need to do something to my team in the near future?

[the phantom]

Perfect timing, Galadriel. Round 2 just finished. I'll be posting the points and such shortly....

[the phantom]

As we so often do, we’ll begin by showing how many points there were to be gained with the perfect alignment.

The Perfect Team
GK *Elrond (Eriador)- 6
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 5
DF Ingwion (RealVal)- 10
DF *Caranthir (Tirion)- 7
DF Uinen (Sea)- 6
MF Aegnor (ACBel) C- 10
MF Argon (FCVal)- 9
MF Nienor (Nargothrond)- 5
FW Eol (ACBel)- 7
FW Legolas (DwUnt)- 8
FW *DBane (MMts)- 7
TOTAL = 90

And here is how everyone fared. Let me know if there’s a mistake on any of these.
(Arien's score corrected.)

Lynch Mob
GK *Tulkas (RealVal)- 4
DF Maglor (FCVal)- 4
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 4
DF Olwe (Havens)- 0
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- 10
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
MF Cirdan (Havens)- 3
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 0
FW *Miriel (RealVal)- 3
FW Hurin (Hithlum)- 3
TOTAL = 39

Atashi no Negai
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Nahar (RealVal)- 4
DF Ingwion (RealVal)- 10
DF Amras (Tirion)- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
MF Tar-Míriel (Armen)- 0
MF Nazgul#3 (Wilder)- 0
MF Argon (FCVal)- 9
FW Finrod (Narg)- 3
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 0
FW **Turin (Hithlum) C- 7
TOTAL = 52

We Didn't Start the Fire
GK *Elrond (Eriador) C- 6
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Celeborn (Anduin)- 2
DF *Eonwe (FCVal)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 4
MF Boromir II (Anduin)- 5
MF Azog (MMts)- 5
MF Cirdan (Havens)- 3
FW TarMinastir (Sea)- 3
FW Finwe (Tirion)- 4
FW *Sauron (BDur)- 7
TOTAL = 53

The Mooncrazed Remixed
GK *Huan (FCVal)- 4
DF Balrog #5 (Hithlum)- 5
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 4
DF Balrog #4 (ACBel)- 1
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
MF *Beleg (Hithlum)- 5
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 5
MF Arveleg (Eriador)- 1
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- 10
MF NerWight (TIG)- 4
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 0
TOTAL = 43

Noggportunistics
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Thorondor (FCVal)- 4
DF Amras (Tirion)- 4
DF Alatar (BDur)- 2
DF *Tilion (RealVal)- 4
MF NerWight (TIG)- 4
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 5
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
FW Aredhel (Tirion)- 4
FW Thranduil (Wilder)- 4
FW *Miriel (RealVal) C- 3
TOTAL = 45

Cupkicks
GK *Huan (FCVal)- 4
DF Balrog #4 (ACBel)- 1
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 4
MF NogWight (Eriador)- 4
MF Daeron (Doriath)- -1
MF NerWight (TIG)- 4
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 0
FW *Smaug (Erebor) C- 0
FW Thuringwethil (TIG)- 4
TOTAL = 28

Eleven Pillars of Wisdom
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Amras (Tirion)- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Maglor (FCVal)- 4
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 2
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- 10
MF Morwen (Hithlum)- 3
MF Nessa (RealVal)- 1
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 1
FW Thuringwethil (TIG)- 4
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 0
TOTAL = 37

Unnamed Horror
GK *Elrond (Eriador)- 6
DF Celeborn (Anduin)- 2
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Draugluin (TIG)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 4
MF *Beren (InterBel)- -1
MF NerWight (TIG)- 4
MF Nienor (Narg)- 5
FW *Curufin (FC Val) C- 0
FW Ar Pharazon (Armen)- 3
FW Nerdanel (RealVal)- 4
TOTAL = 35

Salt and Smoke
GK Tar-Atanamir (Armen)- 4
DF Uinen (Sea)- 6
DF GaladriWight (TIG)- 4
DF Radagast (Wilder)- 3
DF *Varda (Imladris)- 0
MF Tar-Míriel (Armen)- 0
MF NogWight (Eriador)- 4
MF *Saruman (Isengard)- 3
FW Khamul (SBUnt)- 0
FW *Scatha (Wilder) C- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar)- 4
TOTAL = 36

FC Monkey Stink
GK Galadriel (DwUnt)- 4
DF Nienna (RealVal)- 4
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 5
DF Arwen (Eriador)- 4
DF Alatar (BDur)- 2
MF *Elwe (Doriath)- 0
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador) C- 1
MF Cirdan (Havens)- 3
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- 10
FW *Arien (Valimar)- 4
FW *Miriel (RealVal)- 3
TOTAL = 41

Wilwa's Winners
GK Marach (ACBel)- 2
DF Celeborn (Anduin)- 2
DF Uinen (Sea)- 6
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 4
MF Cirdan (Havens)- 3
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
MF Idril (Gondolin)- 0
FW *Miriel (RealVal) C- 3
FW *Smaug (Erebor)- 0
FW Ar Pharazon (Armen)- 3
TOTAL = 34

The Uncloakables
GK *Ungoliant (Angfaug)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Aragorn (Eriador) C- 4
DF Luthien (InterBel)- -1
MF *Elwe (Doriath)- 0
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 5
MF Argon (FCVal)- 9
FW *Gothmog (Angfaug)- 0
FW Legolas (DwUnt)- 8
FW ArPharazon (Armen)- 3
TOTAL = 44

Round 2 Point Standings
We Didn’t Start the Fire- 53
Atashi no Negai- 52
Noggportunistics- 45
The Uncloakables- 44
Mooncrazed Remixed- 43
FC Monkey Stink- 41
Lynch Mob- 39
Elven Pillars of Wisdom- 37
Salt and Smoke- 36
Unnamed Horror- 35
Wilwa’s Winners- 34
Cupkicks- 28

So we add this to the points you made the first round and here is how it stands...

Total Point Standings
Atashi no Negai- 112
Lynch Mob- 97
We Didn’t Start the Fire- 92
Mooncrazed Remixed- 88
Noggportunistics- 86
The Uncloakables- 78
Elven Pillars of Wisdom- 76
Cupkicks- 76
Unnamed Horror- 75
Wilwa’s Winners- 72
FC Monkey Stink- 65
Salt and Smoke- 59

The big movers this round were Boro climbing three slots and Inzil climbing four slots. And in the meantime a solid round from Nilp grew his first place lead.

[the phantom]

You have unlimited trades this round, but this is the last time that happens. Next round you're only allowed seven trades, so you'd better not have more than seven of your players get eliminated. (A guide to which teams risk elimination can be found here.)

You are now allowed five stars on your squad. Best of luck.

Round 3 Games

Armenelos vs Barrow-Downs
Havens vs Valimar

AC Beleriand vs Dwarves United
Inter Beleriand vs Gondolin

Shire-Bree United vs Real Valinor
Doriath vs Hithlum

Barad-Dur vs FC Valinor
Gondor vs Isengard

Erebor vs Misty Mts
Eriador vs Wilderland

Nargothrond vs Tirion
Minas Tirith vs The Sea

Angband vs Imladris
Angfauglith vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth

Arnor vs Rohan
Anduin vs Mordor

[satansaloser2005]

Well that was unpleasant....

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

I'm probably gonna change my mind on a midfield slot and a defender or two, but, then again, I might not.

Atashi no Negai ~more aggressive~
GK Hyarmendacil (The Sea)
DF BoroWolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF Balrog #4 (AC Beleriand)
DF Tar-Telperiën (Armenelos)
DF *Ulmo (The Sea)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF *Elros (Armenelos)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)
FW *Miriel (Real Valinor) (C)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, this was definitely better than first round, but still nothing so great. But I am being conservative. Let's see about these.

--DF Radagast
--MF Saruman
--FW Khamul

++DF Balrog#5
++MF Glorfindel
++FW Glaurung

So, we have:

Salt and More Smoke

GK Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)

DF Uinen (The Sea)
DF GaladriWight (TIG)
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)
DF *Varda (Imladris)

MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF NogWight (Eriador)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)

FW *Glaurung (Nargothrond)
FW *Scatha (Wilderland)
FW *Arien (Valimar) C

[Inziladun]

Let's see if I can keep the current trend going.

--GK *Ungoliant (Angband)
++GK Marach (AC Beleriand)
--MF *Elwe (Doriath)
++MF *Phantomwolf (TIG)
--FW Legolas (Dwarves United)
++FW *Miriel (Real Valinor)
--FW Ar Pharazon (Armenelos)
++FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)


GK- Marach (AC Beleriand)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Aragorn (Eriador) (C)
DF Luthien (Inter Beleriand)
MF *Phantomwolf (TIG)
MF Hador (Hithlum)
MF Argon (FC Valinor)
FW *Gothmog (Angfauglith)
FW *Miriel (Real Valinor)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)

[Nogrod]

Okay... going quite fine but Mr. Nilp & co are getting a bit too far ahead. So some drastic measures - and coming back towards my team-roots then.

I'm changing the whole "downstairs" of my team and basically going even more for my first year's "Beauties and the Beasts" -team spirits allowing only females and beasts / creatures of some sort into my team... there will be still two exceptions with that principle but I will - or then not - try to get to deal with them later...


So, the changes:

-- GK *Shastawolf (T-I-G)
++ GK Amroth (Anduin)


-- DF Thorondor (FC Valinor)
-- DF Amras (Tirion)
-- DF Alatar (Barad-Dûr)
-- DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)
++ DF Rochallor (AC Beleriand)
++ DF BoroWolf (T-I-G)
++ DF *Ulmo (The Sea)
++ DF *Morgoth (Angband)


-- MF NerWight (T-I-G)
++ MF NogWight (Eriador)


-- FW Thranduil (Wilderland)
++ *Arien (Valimar)


Which results in the following team for round three.


Noggportunistics


GK - Amroth (Anduin)

DF - Rochallor (AC Beleriand)
DF - BoroWolf (T-I-G)
DF - *Ulmo (The Sea)
DF - *Morgoth (Angband)

MF - NogWight (Eriador)
MF - Hador (Hithlum)
MF - *Yavanna (FC Valinor)

FW - Aredhel (Tirion)
FW - *Arien ( Valimar) C
FW - *Miriel (Real Valinor)



EDIT: A change: I'll put all on Arien this round... thence the captaincy (she made me the champion last season - now it's time to see if she can deliver this time as well) moves from Miriel to her.

[Boromir88]

Well the overhaul definitely worked, but I'm still dreading how long I can hold off taking Curufin until the rest get too far ahead.

We Didn't Start the Fire
GK *Elrond (Eriador) C
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Celeborn (Anduin)
DF *Eonwe (FCVal)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF Boromir II (Anduin)
MF Azog (MMts)
MF Cirdan (Havens)
FW TarMinastir (Sea)
FW Finwe (Tirion)
FW *Sauron (BDur)

-----

--DF Celeborn
--DF *Eonwe
++DF *Fingolfin
++DF *Tilion

--MF Azog
--MF Cirdan
++MF *Elros
++MF Angrod

--FW Finwe
--FW *Sauron
++FW Eldacar
++FW Orome

----

We Didn't Start the Fire
GK *Elrond (Eriador) C
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF Boromir II (Anduin)
MF Angrod (ACBel)
MF *Elros (Armenelos)
FW TarMinastir (Sea)
FW Eldacar (Gondor)
FW Orome (Real Valinor)

----

Not as drastic as a shake up but I've always wondered how this ever-revolving door of "what no-star FWs could have a great game?" guesses will pan out.

[the phantom]

Games will likely start going up the 3rd or the 4th, so get your trades done, or at least let us know you intend to do trades so we know to hold off for you.

Per her PM instructions this is Galadriel's team (unless of course she gets back in time and chooses to adjust it).

Unnamed Horror
GK *Elrond (Eriador)
DF Celeborn (Anduin)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Draugluin (TIG)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)
MF NerWight (TIG)
MF Nienor (Narg)
FW *Miriel (RealV)
FW Ar Pharazon (Armen)
FW Nerdanel (RealV)

[Galadriel55]

I'm back, but couple "resource limit is reached" with my recently turned bad connection and it takes forever to do anything on the Downs... Tonight?

[Galadriel55]

--Celeborn (Anduin)
++*Fingolfin (AC Bel)

--Draugluin (TIG)
++Uinen (Sea)

--*Miriel (Real)
++Curufin (FCVal)

Unnamed Horror
GK *Elrond (Eriador)
DF *Fingolfin (AC Bel)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Uinen (Sea)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)
MF NerWight (TIG)
MF Nienor (Narg)
FW *Curufin (FCVal)
FW Ar Pharazon (Armen)
FW Nerdanel (RealV)

Really want to squist Hurin in there somewhere, but I don't want to replace any of the FWs I have now... sucks.

[satansaloser2005]

Hey, I'll be getting to my picks on Saturday, so keep your phants on.

[Gwathagor]

--
Tulkas
Aragorn
Olwe
Cirdan
Curufin

++
Shastawolf
Balrog #4
Ingwion
Tar Aldarion
Glorfindel

GK: *Shastawolf (TIG)
DF: Maglor (FC Valinor)
DF: Balrog #4 (ACB)
DF: Ingwion (RV)
DF: Borowolf (TIG)
MF: Aegnor (ACB)
MF: *Yavanna (FC Valinor)
MF: Tar Aldarion (The Sea)
MF: *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW: Hurin (Hithlum)
FW: *Miriel (Real Valinor) C

[satansaloser2005]

After that abysmal round, it's time for some changes.


Cupkicks
GK *ShastaWolf (TiG) (Captain, my captain)
DF *Fingolfin (AC Bel)
DF Aragorn (Eriador)
DF BoroWolf (TiG)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF NogWight (Eriador)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
MF NerWight (TiG)
FW Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW Aredhel (Tirion)
FW *Curufin (FC Val)

Hopefully that maths out correctly. I won't be checking the Downs again today, so if anything's wrong, Phantom, call me. I had to do it pretty quickly, and I put a lot of stake in a few teams, so I hope I don't get shafted during this round of play. :/

[the phantom]

The first games of Round 3 will be up within 12 hours and the rest will follow. Move fast if you want to get any trades in.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I had to do it pretty quickly, and I put a lot of stake in a few teams, so I hope I don't get shafted during this round of play. :/

I put quite a stake in TIG, so it better win. I pretty much told TP in the back-up instructions for my absence to pick a player from TIG if anything. But it looks like this team has prospects.

[Nerwen]

Seems I missed this round– I’ve been without internet for a few days, and before that the site wouldn’t let me post. Ah well.

[the phantom]

Ah, yes, tech difficulties. We love those!

You can make a few trades that don't involve players that have played already if you wish, Nerwen.

(Groups A & C have played thus far)

[Nerwen]

Thanks, tp, but I really don’t have time right now, anyway.

[the phantom]

As we so often do, we’ll begin by showing how many points there were to be gained with the perfect alignment.

The Perfect Team
GK TarAtanamir (Armen)- 6
DF Balrog#4 (ACBel) C- 10
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 7
DF *Gwaihir (MMts)- 8
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 8
MF Nessa (RealV)- 6
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 8
MF Mahtan (Tirion)- 8
FW *Arien (Valimar)- 8
FW Tuor (Gondolin)- 8
FW *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 7
TOTAL = 94

And here is how everyone fared. Let me know if there’s a mistake on any of these.

Lynch Mob
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 2
DF Maglor (FCVal)- 2
DF Balrog#4 (ACBel)- 10
DF Ingwion (RealV)- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- 4
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
MF TarAldarion (Sea)- 0
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 5
FW Hurin (Hithlum)- 0
FW *Miriel (RealVal) C- 3
TOTAL = 38

Atashi no Negai
GK Hyarmendacil (Sea)- 2
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
DF Balrog#4 (ACBel)- 10
DF TarTelperien (Armen)- 2
DF *Ulmo (Sea)- 2
MF TarMíriel (Armen)- 3
MF *Elros (Armen)- 5
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 5
FW Finrod (Narg)- 7
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 4
FW *Miriel (RealV) C- 3
TOTAL = 48

We Didn't Start the Fire
GK *Elrond (Eriador) C- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
DF *Tilion (RealV)- 7
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 7
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 8
MF Boromir II (Anduin)- 4
MF Angrod (ACBel)- 1
MF *Elros (Armen)- 5
FW TarMinastir (Sea)- 4
FW Eldacar (Gondor)- 4
FW Orome (RealV)- 4
TOTAL = 54

The Mooncrazed Remixed
GK *Huan (FCVal)- 2
DF Balrog #5 (Hithlum)- 2
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 2
DF Balrog #4 (ACBel)- 10
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
MF *Beleg (Hithlum)- 3
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 8
MF Arveleg (Eriador)- 0
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- 4
MF NerWight (TIG)- 0
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 4
TOTAL = 42

Noggportunistics
GK Amroth (Anduin)- 2
DF Rochallor (ACBel)- 3
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
DF *Ulmo (Sea)- 2
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 8
MF NogWight (Eriador)- 0
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 8
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
FW Aredhel (Tirion)- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar) C- 8
FW *Miriel (RealVal)- 3
TOTAL = 51

Cupkicks
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG) C- 2
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 7
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 2
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 8
MF NogWight (Eriador)- 0
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 5
MF NerWight (TIG)- 0
FW Finrod (Narg)- 7
FW Aredhel (Tirion)- 4
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 4
TOTAL = 43

Eleven Pillars of Wisdom
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 2
DF Amras (Tirion)- -1
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
DF Maglor (FCVal)- 2
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 7
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- 4
MF Morwen (Hithlum)- -1
MF Nessa (RealV)- 6
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 5
FW Thuringwethil (TIG)- -1
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 4
TOTAL = 33

Unnamed Horror
GK *Elrond (Eriador)- 4
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 7
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
DF Uinen (Sea)- 2
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 8
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
MF NerWight (TIG)- 0
MF Nienor (Narg)- 0
FW *Curufin (FC Val) C- 4
FW ArPharazon (Armen)- 4
FW Nerdanel (RealV)- 0
TOTAL = 38

Salt and Smoke
GK TarAtanamir (Armen)- 6
DF Uinen (Sea)- 2
DF GaladriWight (TIG)- 2
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 2
DF *Varda (Imladris)- -1
MF TarMíriel (Armen)- 3
MF NogWight (Eriador)- 0
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 5
FW *Glaurung (Narg)- 4
FW *Scatha (Wilder)- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar) C- 8
TOTAL = 43

FC Monkey Stink
GK Galadriel (DwUnt)- 2
DF Nienna (RealV)- 4
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 2
DF Arwen (Eriador)- 2
DF Alatar (BDur)- 0
MF *Elwe (Doriath)- 5
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador) C- 5
MF Cirdan (Havens)- 3
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar)- 8
FW *Miriel (RealV)- 3
TOTAL = 43

Wilwa's Winners
GK Marach (ACBel)- 4
DF Celeborn (Anduin)- 2
DF Uinen (Sea)- 2
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 8
MF Cirdan (Havens)- 3
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
MF Idril (Gondolin)- 3
FW *Miriel (RealV) C- 3
FW *Smaug (Erebor)- 4
FW Ar Pharazon (Armen)- 4
TOTAL = 41

The Uncloakables
GK Marach (ACBel)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 8
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 2
DF Aragorn (Eriador) C- 2
DF Luthien (InterBel)- 0
MF *PhantomWolf (TIG)- 5
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 8
MF Argon (FCVal)- 4
FW *Gothmog (Angfaug)- 3
FW *Miriel (RealV)- 3
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 4
TOTAL = 45

Round 3 Points
We Didn’t Start the Fire- 54
Noggportunistics- 51
Atashi no Negai- 48
The Uncloakables- 45
Salt and Smoke- 43
FC Monkey Stink- 43
Cupkicks- 43
Mooncrazed Remixed- 42
Wilwa’s Winners- 41
Unnamed Horror- 38
Lynch Mob- 38
Elven Pillars of Wisdom- 33

Point Standings After 3rd Round
Atashi no Negai- 160
We Didn’t Start the Fire- 146
Noggportunistics- 137
Lynch Mob- 135
Mooncrazed Remixed- 130
The Uncloakables- 123
Cupkicks- 119
Unnamed Horror- 113
Wilwa’s Winners- 113
Elven Pillars of Wisdom- 109
FC Monkey Stink- 108
Salt and Smoke- 102

Ah, but don’t forget about those group predictions you all made. Before we award the points, there are a few things worth pointing out in the predictions.
Everyone called Real Valinor and Eriador advancing.
Only one person didn't call TIG advancing.
Only two people didn't call Valimar, Armenelos, AC Beleriand, Barad-Dur, or FC Valinor.
Only Inzil, Boro, and Wilwa had Gondolin advancing.
Only Morm, Boro, and Wilwa had Misty Mts advancing.
Only Boro and Morm got Group E correct.
Only Legate and Nog got Group H correct.
Only Legate got Group F correct.
Legate had the most group-winners correct, with 7 of 8.
Nog got the most total points.

27 pts- Nog
25 pts- Legate & Wilwa
21 pts- Nilp & Shasta
20 pts- Gwath
19 pts- Galadriel
18 pts- Nerwen & Morm & Boro
16 pts- Sally
4 pts- Inzil

Which means the points standings are…

Total Point Standings Before Playoffs
Atashi no Negai- 181
We Didn’t Start the Fire- 164
Noggportunistics- 164
Lynch Mob- 155
Mooncrazed Remixed- 151
Wilwa’s Winners- 138
Cupkicks- 135
Unnamed Horror- 132
The Uncloakables- 127
Elven Pillars of Wisdom- 127
Salt and Smoke- 127
FC Monkey Stink- 126

Our biggest positive movers this round—Wilwa leaped up four spots, and Nog moved up two spots. And if everything was added correctly, it seems there is a huge pile-up at the back. And to see how close it is, if any of them had 12 more points they’d be in the top half of the standings instead of in the rear.

And speaking of being close, it seems Nilp is the only one not interested in it. He has grown his lead to 17 points. But of course that’s not insurmountable by any means…

[the phantom]

You are allowed six stars.

You are allowed seven trades. (It doesn't matter how many times you swap out players- what matters is that the team you end up with must have FOUR players that are on your squad currently.)

You can also gain bonus points for correctly predicting the winner in each playoff match (one point per game). The match-ups are...

Arnor vs Valimar

Angband vs AC Beleriand

Tirion vs Real Valinor

Misty Mts vs FC Valinor

Barad-Dur vs Eriador

Hithlum vs Nargothrond

Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth

Anduin vs Armenelos

(In case you wondered, winner of the top match (Arnor-Valimar) faces winner of second match (Angband-AC) and so on down the line for the next round.)

[Gwathagor]

Gwath and the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad round. Yuck.

[satansaloser2005]

I am very disappointed in a certain NogWight....

I'll hopefully make my changes by the end of the week. I definitely need some work....

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

GK Hyarmendacil (The Sea)
DF BoroWolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF Balrog #4 (AC Beleriand)
DF Tar-Telperiën (Armenelos)
DF *Ulmo (The Sea)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF *Elros (Armenelos)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)
FW *Míriel (Real Valinor) (C)

--GK Hyarmendacil
++ GK *ShastaWolf

--DF Balrog #4
++DF Aragorn

--DF Tar-Telperiën
++DF Barahir

--DF *Ulmo
++DF *Námo

--MF *Elros
++ MF *PhantomWolf

--FW *Míriel
++FW *Arien

Atashi no Negai Second Season
GK *ShastaWolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF BoroWolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF Aragorn (Eriador)
DF Barahir (Nargothrond)
DF *Námo (Valimar)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF *Phantomwolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW Finrod (Nargothrond) (C)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)
FW *Arien (Valimar)

Predictions

[Inziladun]

Ok, let's make a few changes...

--DF Luthien (Inter Beleriand)
++DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)
--FW *Gothmog (Angfauglith)
++FW *Witch King (Arnor)
--FW *Miriel (Real Valinor)
++FW *Maeglin (Gondolin)


GK- Marach (AC Beleriand)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Aragorn (Eriador)
DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)
MF *Phantomwolf (TIG)
MF Hador (Hithlum) (C)
MF Argon (FC Valinor)
FW *Witch King (Arnor)
FW *Maeglin (Gondolin)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)

Captaincy change to Hador.

Match Predictions:

Arnor vs Valimar- Arnor

Angband vs AC Beleriand- Angband

Tirion vs Real Valinor- Real Valinor

Misty Mts vs FC Valinor- FC Valinor

Barad-Dur vs Eriador- Eriador

Hithlum vs Nargothrond- Hithlum

Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth- TIG

Anduin vs Armenelos- Armenelos

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

I am very disappointed in a certain NogWight....

Me too!

I thought in the beginning I would not sign him in to my team but then he started performing really well (second best in phantasy-points after Elrond in team Eriador) and suddenly it seemed like an option as a non-starred midfielder... and what did I earn from him? Zero points.


Btw. there will be some crazily hard to predict games on the next round. Fun!

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Sorry I missed the last round. Caught me in the middle of moving. Hopefully I didn't do too badly.

[Nogrod]

Time to make changes... those underlined are kicked out.

Originally Posted by Noggportunistics

GK - Amroth (Anduin)

DF - Rochallor (AC Beleriand)
DF - BoroWolf (T-I-G)
DF - *Ulmo (The Sea)
DF - *Morgoth (Angband)

MF - NogWight (Eriador)
MF - Hador (Hithlum)
MF - *Yavanna (FC Valinor)

FW - Aredhel (Tirion)
FW - *Arien ( Valimar)
FW - *Miriel (Real Valinor) C

In their stead I'll be hiring the following players.

GK - Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)

DF - Vana (Valimar)
DF - Aragorn (Eriador)
DF - * Tilion (Real Valinor)

MF - Argon (FC Valinor)

FW - ** Fëanor (AC Beleriand)



Which will result in the following team:


Noggportunistics

GK – Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)

DF – Vana (Valimar)
DF – Borowolf (TIG)
DF – Aragorn (Eriador)
DF – *Tilion (Real Valinor)

MF – Argon (FC Valinor)
MF – Hador (Hithlum)
MF – *Yavanna (FC Valinor)

FW - ** Fëanor (AC Beleriand)
FW – *Arien (Valimar) C
FW – *Miriel (Real Valinor)



~*~

My bets for the winners of the first play-off round will be (winners bolded):


Valimar beats Arnor.

AC Beleriand has the better off Angband in a real fight.

Real Valinor proves tougher than Tirion in the end.

FC Valinor gives Misty Mountains no chance.

Eriador denies Barad-Dûr and wears them down.

From a real thriller against Nargothrond Hithlum emerges triumphant.

T-I-G has to give their best to beat Gondolin - and they deliver.

Anduin has not what it takes to beat Armenelos and loses.



PS. To ever hope catching Nilp one must play differently - alea iacta est!

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Changed my prediction in Anduin v Armenelos to Armenelos.

[Nerwen]

Eleven Pillars of Wisdom
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 2
DF *Tilion (RealV)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Maglor (FCVal)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
MF Aegnor (ACBel)
MF Nessa (RealV)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW Thuringwethil (TIG)
FW *Arien (Valimar)
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C

Changing to 4-3-3

-- DF Amras (Tirion)
-- MF Morwen (Hithlum)

++ DF *Tilion (RealV)
++ FW *Arien (Valimar)



Predictions:

Arnor vs Valimar

Angband vs AC Beleriand

Tirion vs Real Valinor

Misty Mts vs FC Valinor

Barad-Dur vs Eriador

Hithlum vs Nargothrond

Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth

Anduin vs Armenelos

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Amazing what happens when you're trying to write predictions.

--DF Barahir
++DF Maglor

Atashi no Negai Second Season
GK *ShastaWolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF BoroWolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
DF Aragorn (Eriador)
DF Maglor (FC Valinor)
DF *Námo (Valimar)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF *Phantomwolf (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW Finrod (Nargothrond) (C)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)
FW *Arien (Valimar)

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Salt and Smoke
GK TarAtanamir (Armen)- 6
DF Uinen (Sea)- 2
DF GaladriWight (TIG)- 2
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 2
DF *Varda (Imladris)- -1
MF TarMíriel (Armen)- 3
MF NogWight (Eriador)- 0
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 5
FW *Glaurung (Narg)- 4
FW *Scatha (Wilder)- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar) C- 8
TOTAL = 43

Okay, this certainly does not add up, one way or the other. I am really really bad at maths, so I am not even trying to count how many points should I get per each person, but the result does not add up, and also, shouldn't I get double points for Arien? Same goes for Nog, I think, who copied my move and has her as her captain as well (Not that I want to continue feeding him points, but...)

In any case, this round in total looks MUCH better than the previous ones! I'm on the rise, watch out! (Hope it continues that way...)

Only Legate and Nog got Group H correct.
Only Legate got Group F correct.
Legate had the most group-winners correct, with 7 of 8.

And, yay! Pity about the one guess, but who would have thought Angband...

Updates to team and predictions coming soon...

[Boromir88]

Man, I keep having good rounds and still seems like I'm losing ground. .

Quick prediction time:

Arnor vs Valimar
Angband vs AC Beleriand
Tirion vs Real Valinor
Misty Mts vs FC Valinor
Barad-Dur vs Eriador
Hithlum vs Nargothrond
Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth
Anduin vs Armenelos

Trades:

We Didn't Start the Fire
GK *Elrond (Eriador) C
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF *Tilion (RealV)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF Boromir II (Anduin)
MF Angrod (ACBel)
MF *Elros (Armen)
FW TarMinastir (Sea)
FW Eldacar (Gondor)
FW Orome (RealV)

----

--DF *Tilion
--DF *Fingolfin
--DF *Morgoth
++DF Tar Telperien
++DF Vana
++DF *Eonwe


--MF Boromir II
++MF *Beleg

--FW Tar Minastir
--FW Eldacar
--FW Orome
++FW Ar Pharazon
++FW Celegorm
++FW **Feanor

-----

We Didn't Start the Fire
GK *Elrond (Eriador)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Tar Telperien (Armen)
DF Vana (Valimar)
DF *Eonwe (FCVal)
MF Angrod (ACBel)
MF *Elros (Armen)
MF *Beleg (Hithlum)
FW Celegorm (FCVal)
FW Ar Pharazon (Armen)
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C

Switching captain to Feanor