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Mithalwen · 06-13-2013, 10:08 AM

There are other demographics with cash. The grey pound can be very strong and there have been some very successful films in the past couple of years that have benefitted. Even with the stellar cast I doubt Marigold Hotel cost many Hobbit minutes. Of course though they dont attract the peripheral merchandising tat.

The Hobbit is not a long book and i oo not know to laugh or cry when film apogists iwho defended the omissions of tne Rings (with some justification~ it is the additions I minded more) claim that the Hobbit needed expanded. Yes it isa episodic but it was designed to be. have always thought it would work best as the sort of Sunday teatime classic serial that the BBC used to do when I was a child. Now they seem to think children dont have the attention span to follow a story over several weeks. However it is still how I would wish it done..couple of chapters per shortish episode each ending on a mini cliffhanger.

Mithalwen · 06-13-2013, 10:20 AM

The thing about CGI for me is that it has little magic because I have seen the making of type programs. Might appreciate the cleverness but not astounded. Now when I saw the LOTR musical and Bilbo disappeared without any blaze of light or plume of smoke..well l might as well have been a bemused Breeland peasant. I hearn an interview with the effects designer and he didn't squeak.

Pervinca Took · 06-13-2013, 11:42 AM

I put the LOTR musical on a par with the BBC dramatisation (possibly even higher). For slightly different reasons, perhaps, but both magical and breathtaking pieces of art.

Mithalwen · 06-13-2013, 12:54 PM

They are hard to compare not least because the musical was one magical and memorable night whereas I have known the Radio series for thirty years (eeeeek) and have heard it many times since, and had the privilege of getting to ask Brian Sibley about it...I think both are great adaptations within the possibilities and limitations of the media.

Aganzir · 06-13-2013, 01:38 PM

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Still, I don't doubt the unintentional humor quotient will be high.

There has to be some recompense for seeing it.

And this is why we'll have Premiere Moot. Welcome one and all!

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Well, he did make a video with him, John Howe, and Alan Lee for the Tolkien Society's Return of the Ring con last summer, meant to welcome us to the event.

Meant to extend a hand to us and remind us that he'd also like to serve nitpickers of the canon.

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I suppose you can say that it is 'somehow sweet'. Like having seven spoons of sugar in your tea.

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Why ARE Tauriel's ears so big? Much larger than the male elves... really distracting.

PJ said in response to Stephen Colbert that he does plan to differentiate between the Sindar and the Nandor, and a fan theory I've seen is that Tauriel's ears mark her as a Nando. I must say I prefer the Sinda ears. Which might be the only thing ever where I'm on the Sindar's side.

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I imagine several blocks of 6-8 episodes, each telling a single story with largely its own set of characters (Flight of the Noldor, Beren & Luthien, Turin, etc.), with a few standalone episodes for things like the story of Eol and Aredhel.

Well, if you insert one or two of Fëanor's sons in most episodes, they should be able to tell it's still the same story.

Boromir88 · 06-13-2013, 02:20 PM

I liked the overall look of Mirkwood, Dol Guldur, and what I assume was Thranduil's hall. Also, Lee Pace has some intense eyebrow thing going for him, could give Hugo Weaving a run for his money.

Other than that...meh. Upon seeing Bard I thought "Why is Orlando Bloom playing the part of pirate Will Turner in The Hobbit? But then I read this thread and like Zigur's explanation better.

Mithalwen · 06-13-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aganzir

PJ said in response to Stephen Colbert that he does plan to differentiate between the Sindar and the Nandor, and a fan theory I've seen is that Tauriel's ears mark her as a Nando. I must say I prefer the Sinda ears. Which might be the only thing ever where I'm on the Sindar's side.

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But Agan the only recorded bearded elf is Sinda. And they ar musical and like the sea and given the calibre of woman they attract they must have a lot going for them. As for Hugo V Lee wll Thranduil's get up keeps reminding me of Priscilla ....

06-13-2013, 10:08 AM	#1
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	There are other demographics with cash. The grey pound can be very strong and there have been some very successful films in the past couple of years that have benefitted. Even with the stellar cast I doubt Marigold Hotel cost many Hobbit minutes. Of course though they dont attract the peripheral merchandising tat. The Hobbit is not a long book and i oo not know to laugh or cry when film apogists iwho defended the omissions of tne Rings (with some justification~ it is the additions I minded more) claim that the Hobbit needed expanded. Yes it isa episodic but it was designed to be. have always thought it would work best as the sort of Sunday teatime classic serial that the BBC used to do when I was a child. Now they seem to think children dont have the attention span to follow a story over several weeks. However it is still how I would wish it done..couple of chapters per shortish episode each ending on a mini cliffhanger. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-13-2013, 10:20 AM	#2
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	The thing about CGI for me is that it has little magic because I have seen the making of type programs. Might appreciate the cleverness but not astounded. Now when I saw the LOTR musical and Bilbo disappeared without any blaze of light or plume of smoke..well l might as well have been a bemused Breeland peasant. I hearn an interview with the effects designer and he didn't squeak. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-13-2013, 11:42 AM	#3
Pervinca Took Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: The Treetops, C/O Great Smials Posts: 5,035	I put the LOTR musical on a par with the BBC dramatisation (possibly even higher). For slightly different reasons, perhaps, but both magical and breathtaking pieces of art. __________________ "Sit by the firelight's glow; tell us an old tale we know. Tell of adventures strange and rare; never to change, ever to share! Stories we tell will cast their spell, now and for always."

06-13-2013, 12:54 PM	#4
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,461	They are hard to compare not least because the musical was one magical and memorable night whereas I have known the Radio series for thirty years (eeeeek) and have heard it many times since, and had the privilege of getting to ask Brian Sibley about it...I think both are great adaptations within the possibilities and limitations of the media. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-13-2013, 02:20 PM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	I liked the overall look of Mirkwood, Dol Guldur, and what I assume was Thranduil's hall. Also, Lee Pace has some intense eyebrow thing going for him, could give Hugo Weaving a run for his money. Other than that...meh. Upon seeing Bard I thought "Why is Orlando Bloom playing the part of pirate Will Turner in The Hobbit? But then I read this thread and like Zigur's explanation better. __________________ Fenris Penguin Last edited by Boromir88; 06-13-2013 at 02:46 PM.