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Inziladun · 02-26-2013, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Couldn't radagast have guided them through mirkwood? Also they may have been able to rest in Thranduil's halls for a bit to recover as well.

I wouldn't think bringing the Ring within the influence of Dol Guldur would have been wise.

Aiwendil · 02-26-2013, 06:59 PM

If you recall, after the Council Elrond sent many scouts out; some of them went to Rhosgobel, but Radagast was not there. So that may not have been an option simply because they did not know how to get in touch with Radagast.

Kuruharan · 02-27-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun

I wouldn't think bringing the Ring within the influence of Dol Guldur would have been wise.

To be fair they kinda brought the Ring into the range of Dol Guldur when they left Lorien.

Inziladun · 02-27-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan

To be fair they kinda brought the Ring into the range of Dol Guldur when they left Lorien.

Well, they had the River for protection and rapid travel, which I think mitigated the danger. Going through Mirkwood on foot would have been far more risky.

Kuruharan · 02-27-2013, 09:20 AM

A fair point, especially considering that even on the River they were unable to escape without incident.

radagastly · 02-27-2013, 11:02 AM

Also, Galadriel seems to have maintained some kind of "cloak" of secrecy around Lorien as she contended with the powers of Dol Guldur. Something beyond the skills of her Elven archers guarding it's borders. It's possible, even likely to me, that she could extend this veil around the Fellowship, at least for their first few miles down the River, far enough to get them out of reach of Dol Guldur's notice.

Rhod the Red · 04-03-2013, 06:25 AM

It would have been great if Tolkien had Radagast helped them through Moria or something like that and escorts them to Lorien and then heads north back to his home, etc.

But that might have required substantial changes to the storyline. Though I wouldn't have been opposed to that, anything to give other wizards than just Gandalf parts in TLotR.

Inziladun · 04-03-2013, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rhod the Red

It would have been great if Tolkien had Radagast helped them through Moria or something like that and escorts them to Lorien and then heads north back to his home, etc.

But that might have required substantial changes to the storyline. Though I wouldn't have been opposed to that, anything to give other wizards than just Gandalf parts in TLotR.

What's wrong with Gandalf being the guide? Not only was he the de facto leader of the Fellowship, he'd been through Moria once before.
Also, he had been the prime mover of the resistance to Sauron, since Saruman had effectively abdicated his responsibilities of on that score. Moving Radagast more to the forefront would indeed have required some notable changes, and I for one don't see the benefit of it.

02-27-2013, 09:20 AM	#5
Kuruharan Regal Dwarven Shade Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: A Remote Dwarven Hold Posts: 3,593	A fair point, especially considering that even on the River they were unable to escape without incident. __________________ ...finding a path that cannot be found, walking a road that cannot be seen, climbing a ladder that was never placed, or reading a paragraph that has no...

02-27-2013, 11:02 AM	#6
radagastly Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Washington, D. C., USA Posts: 299	Also, Galadriel seems to have maintained some kind of "cloak" of secrecy around Lorien as she contended with the powers of Dol Guldur. Something beyond the skills of her Elven archers guarding it's borders. It's possible, even likely to me, that she could extend this veil around the Fellowship, at least for their first few miles down the River, far enough to get them out of reach of Dol Guldur's notice. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before, I listen for returning feet and voices at the door.

04-03-2013, 06:25 AM	#7
Rhod the Red Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2006 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 257	It would have been great if Tolkien had Radagast helped them through Moria or something like that and escorts them to Lorien and then heads north back to his home, etc. But that might have required substantial changes to the storyline. Though I wouldn't have been opposed to that, anything to give other wizards than just Gandalf parts in TLotR. __________________ Head of the Fifth Order of the Istari Tenure: Fourth Age(Year 1) - Present Currently operating in Melbourne, Australia

02-26-2013, 06:59 PM	#2
Aiwendil Late Istar Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 2,224	If you recall, after the Council Elrond sent many scouts out; some of them went to Rhosgobel, but Radagast was not there. So that may not have been an option simply because they did not know how to get in touch with Radagast.