WW: XCVIII ~ Game Thread ~ Death at the Foot of Taniquetil

[Kath]

It was a quiet Night within the village. Strange lights flickered over the houses, brightening at one particular door. The wolves howled but their voices seemed oddly muted. Eventually the howls drifted away into the silence.

The villagers woke with a mix of dread and resignation. One by one they left their homes and took unwilling steps toward the fountain - the scene of two deaths so far. Upon reaching the water the villagers paused, unsure. There were no bodies, no red stains, no sign that evil had triumphed last Night.

"Should we ... search the houses?" Greenie asked.

"Or the wells?" Boro offered.

"What about the woods?" Nerwen suggested.

Some time later the various search parties reappeared.

"Anything?" sally and MCR had been left at the fountain in case of further messages from the Valar.

Nobody had found anything odd in any area of the village. Unsure, but pleased at the lack of further death, the villagers went about their Day.

~ ~ ~

Dead:
Kath (mod)
Rune (innocent villager)

Living:
Nerwen
Greenie
Shasta
sally
Boro
Pom
Coppermirror
skip spence
MCR
Nogrod

If Shasta, skip, sally and Greenie do not post toDay they will be modfired. If Pom and Nerwen don't vote toDay they will be modfired.

Villagers start posting.

PS: MCR messages like your one above need to go on the Admin thread not the Game thread.

[Nogrod]

No kill last Night and no ranger to stop it...

Originally Posted by teh rulez

During the Nights when the wolves do not know their fellows each wolf sends a list of three names to the Mod in preferential order. If the same name appears on more than one list that villager is killed. If no name appears more than once there is no kill. When two wolves are aware of each other they jointly send a list and the lone wolf sends a list and the same thing happens. Once all the wolves know each other the kill proceeds as usual.

NOw that is either a darn bad luck for the wolves (they managed to post 3 X 3 names without a single one colliding with the other aka. covering 9 out of 10) oer then one or two wolves are really lackluster... Which brings to my mind the idea of lynching Skip Spence toDay unless he doesn't appear toDay when he will be modfired anyway.

But sure this feels like there is at least one wolf - if not two - who are very inactive. Or, like I said, they had a ridiculously bad luck.

But yeah, cool for us.

Although I'd like to see rather more people posting and voting toDay as yesterDay was just plain ridiculous: it's D2 and we're still on page 1!

[Nogrod]

Btw. just a question Kath: concernig this quote of the rules

Originally Posted by the rules

When two wolves are aware of each other they jointly send a list and the lone wolf sends a list and the same thing happens.

Does this mean the wolves have less chances of killing someone when two wolves know each other than when none knows each other? Like in the first case there are only two lists of three to pick up one common choice while in the latter there would be three lists of three to pick a common denominator?

I mean that might explain the no-kill toNight better...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I apologize for sleeping yesterDay away. Comes from all the exhausting labor I do, you know.

Originally Posted by Nog

Does this mean the wolves have less chances of killing someone when two wolves know each other than when none knows each other? Like in the first case there are only two lists of three to pick up one common choice while in the latter there would be three lists of three to pick a common denominator?

I actually mentioned that on the admin thread, actually.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I actually mentioned that on the admin thread, actually.

I did sign in at the last possible moment and have basically read only Kath's rules-post from the admin thread. So I'm in no way disputing what you say and were you not true in that comment... it would be quite odd indeed as you'd get caught of that - and why fake such an easily checkable thing?

But my question is, why do you feel the need to bring that up? With a smiley?

[Pomegranate]

My apologies as well. More time, more energy, more awareness of the game going on toDay.

I'm trying to see through Nog's point about me to figure out if it actually makes sense. The idea of having a tie up until last minute and seeing if someone would come and save me or Rune is reasonable enough - though I can see the point only if we believe that some of the wolves already knew each other.

when we indeed will have more or less none whatev er way we play

Would you mind elaborating that a bit, Nog? I'm not really sure what you're trying to get to. What I did mean was that if we'd all deliberately try to seem not innocent, that leads to this being a good excuse explaining anything you've done on day 1 ("Yes, I was just trying to act wolvish so that they'd try to dream of me and would go wrong!"). Yes, I do agree that day 1's are most of the time pretty unproductive (and that this one was such in particular, and I admit I was a part of the problem), but at least you're going to have to take responsibility of whatever you do that day.

And yes, you were starting substantive discussion, and I reacted to it by stating my opinion, which is also a part of starting a discussion

Okay, what do we have...

Coppermirror: I think he (or is it she?) makes good observations by the little data there is. Follows on Boro's doubt about Nerwen's howl, yet doesn't vote for her. Is this a wolf protecting potential packmate, or just someone who doesn't want to vote based on a joking comment?

Boro: I feel a bit doubtful about his lack of internet leading to long enough, yet unsubstantial post - you had time to go through us all, but not go through what had been said? Then again, there was not a lot to analyse, and Boro both brings up the case against Nerwen and votes for her, which raises his points in my head since it is a relatively valid point (as much as anything is valid on day 1) and thus he risks the lynching of a potential pack mate. Then again (again), there's nothing that will make me trust Boro anything more than a bit :P

This brings me to Nerwen who did something that would definitely make the wolves consider her being a packmate, yet also something that could've just as easily been done by an innocent. She does bring up a point I was wondering about myself, the whole idea of how does one act wolvishly. I'm more inclined to be curious about the reactions to her than about herself, there is not enough to say.

And Nog. Who was pretty much keeping the whole game alive yesterday. As I said earlier, there's bits I don't understand about his point about me, and in general since I tend to follow his thought well, since it usually is logical, that worries me. But then again, it might just be me having concentration problems, wouldn't be surprised. Waiting for elaboration.

MCR is a hard one to say much about, I want to hear more of her before being able to make a point for/against, as she is a first-timer.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Pomegranate

Would you mind elaborating that a bit, Nog? I'm not really sure what you're trying to get to.

Not at all, even if I need to try and go to sleep soonish... (happily I don't have work tomorrow at eight)

The first elaboration: it of course means "when we indeed will have more or less none whatever way we play"

But seriously, the idea was this.

You Pom said the following:

Originally Posted by Granate

I personally think that, given how small the amount of villagers there is compared to the amount of wolves, a technique which will keep us from having something to analyse today and tomorrow could prove to be pretty disastrous. The wolves need information, but I think we need information more.

And that of course was a reply to my initial discussion starter as whether we should all act wolvishly to blur the scene from the wolves from finding each other (as they would need to do that).

Now you say there you doubt the merits of the "plan" because it would "keep us from having something to analyse today and tomorrow", and "could prove to be pretty disastrous". Now thinking that the wolves don't know each other, we the villagers already are in that position that we can't deduce or argue about anything from what happened on D1 as there is (probably) no co-operation by the wolves; which is more or less the only thing we might try to catch normally.

So the question becomes, how didn't you realise that? Now if you were a wolf, that would be logical as there would have been no natural way for you to think about that situation from the POV of a villager - which is very different from a normal game indeed this time - but had only thought of it from the POV of a wolf and thus had not noticed it (probably more busy with a thought of how to find your mates which must be a stressing question to a wolf). That would actually be even more believable explanation if you've been busy and had no time to think this properly...


But yeah. That was my D1 reasoning - and I admit it is thin and full of questionmarks / assumptions (which one needs to make if willing to find a wolf). It was the best I could do yesterDay. I hope we'll get more substance in toDay to make more enlightened decisions...