Taters to Taters - II

[Boromir88]

Have to do this a little early but everyone will still have until 8pm tomorrow to send me your choice.

Tally

Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy)

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ROUND 3

Green tater: Energetic (active, vigorous, forceful)
Judge: Gwath

[Boromir88]

Tally

Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy)

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ROUND 3

Gwath here's the energetic:

Beorn
Gondor
Butterbur
Thorin
Wargs
Beregond
Mayor Moneybags
Sauron
Bill Ferny
Varda

[Loslote]

Beorn - Maybe. I'd say more driven and motivated than energetic, but that might just be semantics.
Gondor - I'd say Gondor is the opposite of energetic, looking at its conduct without a king.
Butterbur - Far too forgetful to be the best choice, to my mind.
Thorin - Gold-hungry, ambitious, mighty, yes, but energetic? Mmm, maybe...
Wargs - Now this is a choice I can get behind.
Beregond - Yes, I'd say he fits the description.
Mayor Moneybags - A humorous choice if anything.
Sauron - Hmm. In more ways than one - a firey eye would consume a lot of energy, let along the energetic nature Sauron has as a character.
Bill Ferny - A different sort of energy than we've mostly seen, but energetic nonetheless, I'd say.
Varda - As Queen of the Valar, I see her more as an elegant, beautiful figure than an energetic one.

[Boromir88]

Alright, so I'm just getting back now, since I spent my day at a high school with a bunch of 9th graders. But it appears I'm not the only one having a busy weekend.

So, continue on this round for another day, and hopefully people get some more free time. Mmm...I need a nap.

[Gwathagor]

Drat. I forgot about this.

[A Little Green]

But it appears I'm not the only one having a busy weekend.

Yeah... Just back from the wilderness (it was cold). Anyhow, out of those, I'd probably go for Wargs - just love the idea of them described as energetic.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

All right-y. A bit of analysis coming from my part as well, then, seeing that there is time.

Beorn - definitely has lot of energy, that cannot be doubted.
Gondor - maybe in its prime, but I would go with Lottie that the latter Gondor was in the state of full enthropy and losing its energy.
Butterbur - as a pun, I think it's not funny enough, however, I think it is actually much better from the "serious" point of view. I mean, you probably need to have lots of energy if you are him... running around all day with trays of food and beer to the customers, talking to hobbits, providing them with ponies and bedrooms, and shoving off Striders and other strange folks...
Thorin - I think yes, and I would maybe pick him before Beorn or even the Wargs. There is something mentioned I believe in the appendices to LotR about fire of vengeance burning in his heart, and he organised the whole trip to Erebor...
Wargs - that probably can't be doubted, but just like Beorn, I think it's rather "basic". And, I would say, "energetic" is not the first word that comes to your mind when you think of Wargs ("carnivorous" or something would be better). I think it isn't that fitting by itself.
Beregond - I would say sometimes, yes. It is certainly an innovative view of him. It's a nice idea, in any case.
Mayor Moneybags - well... mostly not, I guess.
Sauron - he definitely was energetic, also if you consider him in his prime. Maybe in the First Age a bit overshadowed by Melkor, but especially during the Second Age he was - the true former Maia of Aulë (a pity somebody did not play him), participating in creating several Rings of Power, and of course the One... and the energy to wage wars and manipulate nations for two Ages straight...
Bill Ferny - we haven't seen enough of him, though he seemed to me always more like the "I sit in the corner and act opportunistically"-type. It is true he was Sharkey's "Big Man", but he did not really sparkle with activity.
Varda - maybe if you considered astrophysics, but then again, we learn that the stars were just dew, and the light from the trees etc. does not really seem to equal "energy" in Middle-Earth, but rather something different. She was also much more active in her prime, creating the stars etc., so that was the time of being energetic for her.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Drat. I forgot about this.

No worries, busy weekend for many and I was insanely tired yesterday.

Do have your energetic winner picked by 8pm today.

Welcome back to the land of the wights Greenie, Legate, et all.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Beorn - “Forceful” might be more accurate, but he certainly have bundles of energy, and is an entry that cannot be ignored.
Gondor – No Gondor was a stagnant culture, even in its youth it was merely a remnant of a glorious past. Now Numenor you could argue, had been an energetic (and innovative) society, but Gondor always seemed to be looking to the past, remembering what once was.
Butterbur- Definitely a contender, though “stressed” would be more accurate.
Thorin – Also a possibility, he definitely had his moments, he probably wasn’t special amongst dwarves, but he certainly was passionate about retrieving his stolen treasure.
Wargs – No, not really. They just seem wolfish.
Beregond – Yes in a way, again maybe “passionate” would be better, but he does display some qualities that might be described as energetic.
Mayor Moneybags - No
Sauron – I can see why some might pick him in this category, but personally I would never use that word to describe him.
Bill Ferny - No
Varda – I really have no opinion about this one

I did not actually forget about this, I just didn't really have time to sit down and have a proper look until now.

[satansaloser2005]

My darling prince finds himself suddenly preoccupied for the bulk of the evening. We shall thus continue discussion on the current taters until his return.

[Gwathagor]

And the winner is:

BEORN.

[satansaloser2005]

Rune may now begin the traditional gloating period. At least it's not Menel again....

Boro will return to announce the next round when he deems it proper (read, when he is no longer otherwise engaged).

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

I am generous in victory, the next round of lard is on me!

[Boromir88]

Thank you my dear for handling that on short notice. I had an unanticipated obligation late last night, and if only real life was as easy as only feeling responsible for yourself.

But, yes Rune gets on the board, and I'll post the next round at 8pm tonight. I didn't want to do it in the afternoon and only allow 7-ish hours for everyone to send me their choice.

[Boromir88]

Tally

Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy)
Rune - 1 (Energetic)

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ROUND 4

Green tater: Malicious (mean, hateful, spiteful)
Judge: Legate

[Boromir88]

ROUND 4

So, I have a feeling Legate is going to put his brain through the grinder to decide this one. Malicious:

Huorns
Dol Guldur
Dol Amroth
King of the Dead
Fellbeast
Grima Wormtongue
Mouth of Sauron
Gollum
Eol
Fangorn Forest
Glaurung
Ted Sandyman

(And I will send out everyone's new red taters soon).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Whoa, whoa! Some pretty malicious folks (and not folks) over here. What strikes me in particular (obviously because of its innovative approach) is the idea of Fangorn, and seemingly somebody had had a very similar idea with the Huorns (so we had the same idea of innovative approach here, it seems!). If we are talking the "dark heart of the woods", certainly it isn't that off. Otherwise, I very much like Wormtongue, Mouth of Sauron, Glaurung and Ted Sandyman, and I could be talked into Gollum or Eöl. If people come up with some convincing arguments for anything, I may be swayed - so, go ahead and try your own assessments of the list, I'm most curious about your perception

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Whoa, whoa! Some pretty malicious folks (and not folks) over here. What strikes me in particular (obviously because of its innovative approach) is the idea of Fangorn, and seemingly somebody had had a very similar idea with the Huorns (so we had the same idea of innovative approach here, it seems!).

That's what I thought too when I first saw the list. And personally I like these two choices the most. Probably because, as you put it, the innovative approach. But how innovative is it if two people gave practically the same answer?

Anyways. I like them both, but I think that Fangorn Forest is mostly malicious because of the Huorns. If you take them away, the forest doesn't want to choke every bit on life in it. But the Huorns do. And the forest used to be quite welcoming before certain things happened. But the Huorns are just Huorns, they're always dark and creepy and malicious.

But that doesn't make Fangorn less malicious when the Huorns are in it. After all, it was a fear to the Rohirrim, and even Celeborn was cautious about it. But in the end it's all because of the Huorns.


From the other answers, I think King of the Dead is my favourite. Just because.

[Rune Son of Bjarne]

Grima Wormtongue – Probably my favourite, I have no good argument, it just corresponds well with my own view of Grima.
Mouth of Sauron – Definitly a contender, he certainly seem to derive pleasure from others suffering.
Gollum – The obvious choice and I think malice works especially well with the Gollum we encounter in The Hobbit.
Eol – Perhaps, though he clearly dislikes a lot of people, I am not sure I favour him for this title.
Glaurung – Malice is definitely present in Glaurung, but it is almost to mild a term for such wicked creature.
Ted Sandyman – Starts out as just being a stubborn and narrow-minded person, when we first encounter him in the Green Dragon. However there is proper malice in his person, when we meet him again in the Shire after the war has ended. I think that his exchange with Merry and the other hobbits show this clearly.

[Boromir88]

Tally

Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy)
Rune - 1 (Energetic)
Lottie - 1 (Malicious)

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ROUND 5

Green tater: Classic (Timeless, definitive, vintage)
Judge: Lommy