Taters to Taters - II - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Rune Son of Bjarne · 10-11-2012, 10:20 AM

I am not a big fan of puns, so I would probably go for "Blades of Westernesse" or "Thuringwethil".

The first is very obviously handy, in fact I think everything could be made better with a blade of westernesse, and Thuringwethil is both handy as a messenger and later as a disguise.

Eorl the Young and Anduril could be outsiders for me, but they seem to have very specific application. Anduril was handy for Aragorn, but I doubt that anybody else could have used the sword to the same effect.
These things doesn't really matter, but it weird thinking like this that would determine my decision.

A Little Green · 10-11-2012, 10:54 AM

Excellent choices, buddies. Hmm. I appreciate both Thuringwethil and Maedhros, and Isildur's Bane certainly. My initial favourite though was Eorl the Young, because for all his leadership and heroism and the rest of that, the poor bloke is still pretty much only handy - an instrument for someone or something else. That puts him in the same category with Anduril and the Blades of Westernesse and all of those, except that poor Eorl was actually a person. Makes me sad, kind of.

That said, I haven't made my mind up yet so keep argumenting!

Nogrod · 10-11-2012, 11:10 AM

I can see the point behind offering a person as someone who is handy to have around to do something for you, but then again persons are a lot more than that besides their handiness. And by gods, calling Yavanna "handy" nears blasphemy!

Of the rest I'd say Formenos doesn't hit well enough. Yeah, you could say any stronghold you build is handy for you, but in the end Formenos didn't serve Fëanor & co that well.

Isildur's Bane I have hard times calling "handy". It's something akin to calling Yavanna handy. You don't call the vessel of the doom of the whole world "handy"...

One could argue that Anduril came in handy to Aragorn as a mark to prove his lineage - although having a possession of someone else's sword is not actually "The Proof" of anything. It did take part in some great deeds, but also at defeat (it broke the moment you needed it) - and Aragorn didn't seem to have made any outstanding heroics with it's help either.

The Blades of Westernesse could be handy as well, especially as it is in plural, like "these handy things one should have especially if you happen to stumble upon any wights or wraiths like the Nazgûl"...

Hmm... hard to say.

Let me leave with a kind of "take back what I said" -option. Thuringwethil. If anyone, then Sauron is able to regard others as things or utensils - and thus coming handy to him.

A Little Green · 10-11-2012, 01:00 PM

Bwah. Gave Thuringwethil some serious consideration but decided to go with my first hunch after all. So -

++ Eorl the Young

Poor devil.

Boromir88 · 10-11-2012, 02:57 PM

And a nice little streak that Menel has going...

2 for 2.

I could not have predicted Eorl, I thought for sure it would be one of the blades or Maedhros. But Eorl certainly was used (and handy) by many.

satansaloser2005 · 10-11-2012, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

And a nice little streak that Menel has going...

He must be stopped!

Boromir88 · 10-11-2012, 05:34 PM

Have to do this a little early but everyone will still have until 8pm tomorrow to send me your choice.

Tally

Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy)

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ROUND 3

Green tater: Energetic (active, vigorous, forceful)
Judge: Gwath

Boromir88 · 10-12-2012, 05:59 PM

Tally

Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy)

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ROUND 3

Gwath here's the energetic:

Beorn
Gondor
Butterbur
Thorin
Wargs
Beregond
Mayor Moneybags
Sauron
Bill Ferny
Varda

10-11-2012, 10:54 AM	#2
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	Excellent choices, buddies. Hmm. I appreciate both Thuringwethil and Maedhros, and Isildur's Bane certainly. My initial favourite though was Eorl the Young, because for all his leadership and heroism and the rest of that, the poor bloke is still pretty much only handy - an instrument for someone or something else. That puts him in the same category with Anduril and the Blades of Westernesse and all of those, except that poor Eorl was actually a person. Makes me sad, kind of. That said, I haven't made my mind up yet so keep argumenting! __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

10-11-2012, 11:10 AM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	I can see the point behind offering a person as someone who is handy to have around to do something for you, but then again persons are a lot more than that besides their handiness. And by gods, calling Yavanna "handy" nears blasphemy! Of the rest I'd say Formenos doesn't hit well enough. Yeah, you could say any stronghold you build is handy for you, but in the end Formenos didn't serve Fëanor & co that well. Isildur's Bane I have hard times calling "handy". It's something akin to calling Yavanna handy. You don't call the vessel of the doom of the whole world "handy"... One could argue that Anduril came in handy to Aragorn as a mark to prove his lineage - although having a possession of someone else's sword is not actually "The Proof" of anything. It did take part in some great deeds, but also at defeat (it broke the moment you needed it) - and Aragorn didn't seem to have made any outstanding heroics with it's help either. The Blades of Westernesse could be handy as well, especially as it is in plural, like "these handy things one should have especially if you happen to stumble upon any wights or wraiths like the Nazgûl"... Hmm... hard to say. Let me leave with a kind of "take back what I said" -option. Thuringwethil. If anyone, then Sauron is able to regard others as things or utensils - and thus coming handy to him. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 10-11-2012 at 11:13 AM.

10-11-2012, 01:00 PM	#4
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	Bwah. Gave Thuringwethil some serious consideration but decided to go with my first hunch after all. So - ++ Eorl the Young Poor devil. __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

10-11-2012, 02:57 PM	#5
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	And a nice little streak that Menel has going... 2 for 2. I could not have predicted Eorl, I thought for sure it would be one of the blades or Maedhros. But Eorl certainly was used (and handy) by many. __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-11-2012, 05:34 PM	#7
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Have to do this a little early but everyone will still have until 8pm tomorrow to send me your choice. Tally Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy) ---- ROUND 3 Green tater: Energetic (active, vigorous, forceful) Judge: Gwath __________________ Fenris Penguin

10-12-2012, 05:59 PM	#8
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Tally Menel - 2 (Absurd, Handy) ---- ROUND 3 Gwath here's the energetic: Beorn Gondor Butterbur Thorin Wargs Beregond Mayor Moneybags Sauron Bill Ferny Varda __________________ Fenris Penguin